Ladies on the Flight Deck

[Denti]

The unfortunate biological fact is, that it's always the woman who loses her pilot medical certification for several months, when it's time to start a family. And this industry is so brutally hard for anyone, man or woman, once they've been out of it for a while, to get back into it. And it's very unforgiving of part time employment or 9-to-5 options or all the good things you can normally get in office jobs.

Yes, women, no matter if on the flight deck or in the cabin, have to give up flight duty as soon as they know they are pregnant. However, over here they will stay at home at full pay until birth and then stay at home up to another 14 months while being paid by the state and then can take another 3 years of paternatiy leave after which the airline in question has to take them back, train them to proficiency and give them their old job back. Or they could come back earlier and then have a special right to part time work, but then, part time work is every employees right anyway.

All of the ladies on the flightdeck in my company that had kids returned lateron to fly and most continue to do so on part time. Of course it can mean being away from home for a couple days, but the pay versus the time away from home is apparently very well worth it.

[redsnail]

paternatiy leave

Really?

[Denti]

Got me there, freudian one. Maternity leave can be split in whatever ratio between both partners, but the paternity leave thing is still somewhat new and therefore probably more present. Not no mention, more blokes on tne flightdeck than girls, and therefore more paternity leave than maternity leave...

[Intruder]

women, no matter if on the flight deck or in the cabin, have to give up flight duty as soon as they know they are pregnant.

Where is that? Certainly NOT true in the US!

[redsnail]

In EASA land yes. First 3 months you're grounded. Next 3 months, good to go assuming no complications. Final 3 months grounded again.

[JammedStab]

Originally Posted by JammedStab

Why don't we just accept the reality that women think differently than men. Therefore, there are certain jobs that women tend to prefer and certain jobs that men tend to prefer. All you have to do is listen(while hidden to the subjects a group of women will talk about compared to men if you want proof).

That is just the way it is.

My theory is that women have a built-in desire to want to help. That is part of the explanation of why so so many ATC folk are female along with other professions such as doctors. As well, being home most days(or nights) to see the kids is part of it.

So, get rid of the gender-based discrimination that makes many wonder how qualified any female pilot actually is, and hire those that interview the best.

Originally Posted by PDR1

Ooh, hang on - I know this answer...is it...umm...could it be...

"Because it's not true, it's complete and utter grade one loose-stool water"?

There are a few structural differences between male and female brains, but they all push in the direction of potentially tending towards being better pilots than worse ones, as the military discovered some years ago and have been exploiting ever since.

But if we want to continue the stereotype jokes we should be looking atthe remarks made by a slightly inebriated scouser SLF on an easyjet flight to a footie match when he was advised that the captain of his aeroplane was a woman:

"That's great - I don't care if they let a girl fly the plane 'cose I'm sure she'll be brilliant. But when we get there can we find a man to park it?"



PDR

You obviously did not understand my post above. It clearly has nothing to do with whether female pilots are better or worse than male pilots. It has everything to do with why females are not choosing piloting as a profession. To a lesser extent than why there are very few females in the garbage collecting, sewer cleaning, and construction industry,...it is because not nearly as many of them are interested in it(or willing to do it).

Because they think differently. Not better, not worse just differently.

As for your structural brain differences theory...any expert scientist will tell you that the brain is one of the least understood parts of humans. Scientist can't even figure out the mysteries of sleep even though they all do it every night. As if they have any real analysis of the details of thought process. I can conclude that yours is lacking logic though along with an ability to comprehend a fairly simple post. While the latter is a well known phenomenon, the exact reason for the former is of course...a mystery.

[Reverserbucket]

it is because not nearly as many of them are interested in it(or willing to do it).

I was involved in a recent study commissioned to determine why the imbalance exists between the two sexes in the cockpit and what could be done to encourage more female aircrew applicants. This was a hugely expensive and comprehensive project undertaken by a team of professional research scientists and industry experts conducted over a number of years. The conclusion of this research...women just aren't as interested as men, in much the same way as described in the previous post for other traditionally male dominated vocations such as bin collecting and construction. the solution: more education....teach more women how attractive flying can be!

"You can lead a horse to water..."

[megan]

Let them drink in a little of this



The female pilot working for Emirates

[JammedStab]

Originally Posted by Reverserbucket

I was involved in a recent study commissioned to determine why the imbalance exists between the two sexes in the cockpit and what could be done to encourage more female aircrew applicants. This was a hugely expensive and comprehensive project undertaken by a team of professional research scientists and industry experts conducted over a number of years. The conclusion of this research...women just aren't as interested as men, in much the same way as described in the previous post for other traditionally male dominated vocations such as bin collecting and construction. the solution: more education....teach more women how attractive flying can be!

"You can lead a horse to water..."

Of course, exactly what I said.

There are some that like it like this Emirates lady but a hugely less percentage than men. Just accept reality, much less are interested as a career.

Which is good. I like having a pilot shortage, we don't need to nearly double the availability of pilots looking for work.

And, there is usually a need for doctors. Which is also works out perfect.