Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Ground & Other Ops Forums > Questions
Reload this Page >

Cabin crew awareness of 121.5

Wikiposts
Search
Questions If you are a professional pilot or your work involves professional aviation please use this forum for questions. Enthusiasts, please use the 'Spectators Balcony' forum.

Cabin crew awareness of 121.5

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 15th Jul 2013, 11:57
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Leeds
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cabin crew awareness of 121.5

As a contract pilot I have worked with a number of different airlines around the world and, out of interest, I have asked the cabin crew of each of the airlines what their knowledge was regarding the use of radios in the aircraft.

It astonishes me that there appears to be no or very little training on the simple task of sending a distress message on 121.5 in the event of a pilot incapacitation. Most of the crew I asked had no idea how to set a frequency on the radio or broadcast on the current frequency set and not one knew about 121.5. IMHO the time to demonstrate this during the annual SEP training would be more than worth it if it could potentially save the lives of everyone on board.

I just wondered what other people's opinions are on the matter and whether this lack of knowledge is industry/worldwide?
purmus is offline  
Old 15th Jul 2013, 12:10
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,167
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
You are kidding??

Half of the cabin crew 1/ can't find or fit find the Oxy mask or 2/ open the cockpit door from the inside correctly to get out!!

And you want them to use the radio?

Last edited by nitpicker330; 15th Jul 2013 at 13:36.
nitpicker330 is offline  
Old 15th Jul 2013, 13:34
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,167
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Oh and some cabin crew enter the 744 at door L1, turn left and wonder where the cockpit went? Some even look in the coat closet!! I kid you not
nitpicker330 is offline  
Old 15th Jul 2013, 13:45
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Craggy Island....the west is best
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Have to agree I'm afraid... The technical mind of a pilot does not apply to most cabin crew. Apart from the Helios accident, how often do you hear of both pilots bring simultaneously incapacitated?
3bars is offline  
Old 15th Jul 2013, 19:05
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: I wouldn't know.
Posts: 4,499
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There are quite a few cabin crew with CPL/ATPL flying here, as they cannot get a job up front and are not willing to dish out for a typerating or lack the funds. We actually do that with our cadets this year, they pause their flight training for around half a year to fly as cabin crew.

Granted, they do not have a typerating yet, but they should be able to operate the radios and basic autopilot settings.

As to "normal" cabin crew, i have to agree with the posts above i'm afraid. If there is some time during turn around i do try and explain some of the stuff up front, but they do get bored very fast by it. Not to mention that all our cabin crews are rated on three types and there are some differences between a boeing, airbus and a Q400.

Last edited by Denti; 15th Jul 2013 at 19:06.
Denti is offline  
Old 16th Jul 2013, 03:22
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: any town as retired.
Posts: 2,182
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Differences, shurly not

Sorry could not resist, thought they were different type rating courses, not differences.
Gulfstreamaviator is offline  
Old 21st Jul 2013, 21:57
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Wor Yerm
Age: 68
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The few simple steps it takes to transmit on 121.5 should be clearly documented in the Cabin Crew Safety manual. IMO.
Nice idea but I'd suggest that this would be virtually impossible because the procedure would be so long and error prone as to be useless. The steps vary depending on the current page and scratch pad contents. My aircraft has one of these new fangled FMS/Radio/Nav/Progress boxes with a separate audio selector box. I have to think about the poxy system every time I use it. Cabin crew would stand little chance. And then, if they could get to speak, what would they do? Let ATC know the pilots are incapacitated so they could be shot down if they didn't do as they were told? The autopilot is as picky as the radios.
Piltdown Man is offline  
Old 21st Jul 2013, 23:46
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 349
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Why is it amazing that the cabin crew are not taught something that they have no use for? How many times in the history of aviation would this have come in handy?

Completely useless and not something they would care to learn anyway.
ahramin is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.