Airline pilot flying IFR with SEP
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Airline pilot flying IFR with SEP
Good evening,
I have a type rating and do my LPC/OPC as normal and of course fly IFR everyday.
I also have a valid SEP rating.
The thing is that my ME IR (SPA) is out of date.
I know that a ME IR rating counts downwards so you are also allowed to fly single engine IFR, but not vice versa.
What i wonder is if its the same for my B737 rating?
Can i with a valid SEP rating + type rating also fly IFR with C172 or do i need to do one more SEP IR PC every year?
I have a type rating and do my LPC/OPC as normal and of course fly IFR everyday.
I also have a valid SEP rating.
The thing is that my ME IR (SPA) is out of date.
I know that a ME IR rating counts downwards so you are also allowed to fly single engine IFR, but not vice versa.
What i wonder is if its the same for my B737 rating?
Can i with a valid SEP rating + type rating also fly IFR with C172 or do i need to do one more SEP IR PC every year?
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Not sure,
but i'm in the same condition of you and I believe, that you can fly normally IR with SEP..but if you want to do that even with the MEP you have to revalidate it before flying in IFR
but i'm in the same condition of you and I believe, that you can fly normally IR with SEP..but if you want to do that even with the MEP you have to revalidate it before flying in IFR
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In jar (EASA) multi crew and single crew ir's are seen as a different thing. You need a single crew IR to be able to use it. So no you can't use your 737 IR to fly your c172 in IR conditions.
As usual I could be completely wrong and stand to be corrected, and at this time of night I can't be bothered to look up the reference.
As usual I could be completely wrong and stand to be corrected, and at this time of night I can't be bothered to look up the reference.
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Since you have received different answers to your question:
I am with gorter. My certificate used to say IR/ME/SP (SP = Single Pilot). Nowadays I have a MP (Multi Pilot) instrument rating and can't operate a C172 under IFR, not even with a valid SEP.
In jar (EASA) multi crew and single crew ir's are seen as a different thing. You need a single crew IR to be able to use it. So no you can't use your 737 IR to fly your c172 in IR conditions.
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172 is correct
I have an A320 rating and my 'IR is valid for Multi-Pilot Aircraft only'... Hence I have to renew my Single Pilot IR, ala: ME-IR for me, to fly a 172 on instruments
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A valid multi-pilot (MP) IR does not cover single-pilot (SP) operations. If your SP IR has lapsed then you need to fly a proficiency check with a CRE/IRR in an SP aeroplane to renew the IR. Once you have a SP IR you can use the cross-crediting arrangements laid down in Appendix 8 to EASA Part-FCL:
When a proficiency check including IR is performed, and the holder has a valid:
MP type rating; High performance complex aeroplane type rating
Credit is valid towards the IR part in a proficiency check for:
SE class (*) and SE type rating (*),
(*) Provided that within the preceding 12 months the applicant has flown at least three IFR departures and approaches on an SP class or type of aeroplane in single pilot operations, or, for multi-engine non-high performance non-complex aeroplanes, the applicant has passed section 6 of the skill test for single-pilot non-high performance non-complex aeroplanes flown solely by reference to instruments in single-pilot operation.
and SP ME class, and SP ME non-high performance complex aeroplane type rating, only credits for section 3B of the skill test for single pilot non-high performance complex aeroplane of Appendix 9 (*)
When a proficiency check including IR is performed, and the holder has a valid:
MP type rating; High performance complex aeroplane type rating
Credit is valid towards the IR part in a proficiency check for:
SE class (*) and SE type rating (*),
(*) Provided that within the preceding 12 months the applicant has flown at least three IFR departures and approaches on an SP class or type of aeroplane in single pilot operations, or, for multi-engine non-high performance non-complex aeroplanes, the applicant has passed section 6 of the skill test for single-pilot non-high performance non-complex aeroplanes flown solely by reference to instruments in single-pilot operation.
and SP ME class, and SP ME non-high performance complex aeroplane type rating, only credits for section 3B of the skill test for single pilot non-high performance complex aeroplane of Appendix 9 (*)
