Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Ground & Other Ops Forums > Questions
Reload this Page >

What would you have done on EA401?

Wikiposts
Search
Questions If you are a professional pilot or your work involves professional aviation please use this forum for questions. Enthusiasts, please use the 'Spectators Balcony' forum.

What would you have done on EA401?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 6th Jul 2012, 16:14
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: 41,000 ft.
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What would you have done on EA401?

Some of you might be knowing something about Eastern Airlines flight 401 that crashed in the Everglades due to the crew that were distracted by a dysfunctional nose gear light not noticing that the aircraft was steadily descending towards the swamps.

Assume that you were the PIC on that flight and things had not gone wrong. The aircraft remained at 2000 ft. What would you have done?

I would have done a pass over the runway with the gear out and have airport ground crew inform us about the status of the nose gear. If the gear were to be out, I'd have gone 'round and come back 'round to pull of a smooth landing and to be on the safe side I would've had the ground emergency crew on standby.

What would you have done?
flyboy410 is offline  
Old 6th Jul 2012, 18:29
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Near Stuttgart, Germany
Posts: 1,097
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
What would you have done?
If would have been among the crew of that flight I would probably have done what they did: Crashed into the swamps.

Now, 40 years later, I would know better and do exactly what the abnormal checklist for landing gear malfunctions tells me to do. With the pilot flying monitoring the autopilot and instruments all the time.
what next is online now  
Old 8th Jul 2012, 16:38
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Wor Yerm
Age: 68
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would have done a pass over the runway with the gear out and have airport ground crew inform us about the status of the nose gear. If the gear were to be out, I'd have gone 'round and come back 'round to pull of a smooth landing and to be on the safe side I would've had the ground emergency crew on standby.
What does the checklist say? And does gear out = down and locked? Can you guarantee a smooth landing every flight? And who exactly are the ground emergency crew?
Piltdown Man is offline  
Old 8th Jul 2012, 18:22
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Canada
Age: 69
Posts: 261
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would have done a pass over the runway with the gear out and have airport ground crew inform us about the status of the nose gear
And what exactly would you have been hoping to accomplish in the dark?
604guy is offline  
Old 8th Jul 2012, 20:03
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: fort sheridan, il
Posts: 1,656
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
good job 604guy! I was just going to write the same thing....and if the problem had happened in DAY VMC conditions, someone would have noticed the ap loss by periphreal vision
sevenstrokeroll is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2012, 17:08
  #6 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: 41,000 ft.
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What does the checklist say? And does gear out = down and locked? Can you guarantee a smooth landing every flight? And who exactly are the ground emergency crew?
By gear out I mean whatever gear was working properly. In this case, the MLG.
Can't guarantee a smooth landing but can definitely try. As for the ground
emergency crew, I am referring to the fire trucks, medics, etc.

And what exactly would you have been hoping to accomplish in the dark?
I infer that the airport lights in those days weren't good enough...what a pity.

Thank you for your replies gentlemen but I still await answers as to what you
would have done...
flyboy410 is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2012, 17:18
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: England
Posts: 1,955
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would have done a pass over the runway with the gear out and have airport ground crew inform us about the status of the nose gear.
Written out of the rules in my last company. Rightly so, how much do you think the ground crew can see of the complicated machinery that is the landing gear going past at a few hundred feet and a couple of hundred knots even if it was day light and how accurately can they see of something is misaligned by maybe an inch, or whatever?

Did the have secondary indications for the gear?
Lord Spandex Masher is offline  
Old 12th Jul 2012, 06:57
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Dubai - sand land.
Age: 55
Posts: 2,833
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My current airline (and my previous one) does NOT permit a fly-by for gear inspection. Rightly so as no-one on the ground can see if the darn thing will be downlocked!
White Knight is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.