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Old 20th Jan 2001, 07:45
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Here's a question for pilots who fly high-wing turbo-props which have the main u/c legs at the rear of the engine nacelles, but of course anyone is free to offer an opinion.

Consider this scenario: You have a failure in one of the main u/c legs. After several unsuccessful attempts to rectify the problem, you decide to land with the leg retracted.

With obviously the main consideration being the safety of all on board, in what configuration would you land the aircraft.

Would you land with the remaining main u/c leg plus the nose leg extended ? bearing in mind the possible resulting damage to pax & airframe as the affected wing slams down when dynamic controls become ineffective.

Or might you elect to land with all u/c legs retracted ? retaining a more stable condition during deceleration, and possibly landing on grass to limit damage to pax, airframe, engines and even runway surface, but at the expense of surface friction stopping power.

Your opinions please.

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Old 28th Jan 2001, 10:41
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Come on people, why no replies ?
 
Old 28th Jan 2001, 18:46
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While both BRAL main gear failures were on a low wing turboprop (ATP), both elected to land with the remaining gear extended. To the best of my knowledge both aircraft suffered minimal damage and were subsequently (after repairs obviously) returned to service. This was probably largely due to the professionalism of the flightcrew involved however perhaps a wheels up landing may have caused more serious damage to the pressure hull.
All things considered, the first priority has to be the main way of getting yourselves and the fare-paying passengers (in that order, no heroes here please!) on the deck without injury.

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Old 28th Jan 2001, 23:49
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Did a course on the F.27 with Fokker in AMS in 1970. As I recall, they recommended that the aircraft be landed with any available landing gear extended, this included failure of one main gear OR the nose gear to extend.
 
Old 29th Jan 2001, 02:54
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With regard to the choice of surface, what info is available would seem to recommend tarmac/concrete rather than grass.

The softer the surface the more likely you are to dig in and stop suddenly. When that happens your deceleration forces escalate rapidly. The longer you can take to come to a full stop, the less likely you are to have injuries.

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Old 29th Jan 2001, 07:55
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Very strange that Fokker would recommend that procedure. Some years ago, be about 1970, QB undershot the runway at CYGV with a Fairchild F-27. The aircaft bounced back into the air, and they managed to keep it airborne to go around, but had an in transit indication on the right main. The right MLG lower member had broken at the scissors, and the wheel assembly turned through 90* so it wouldn't retract into the nacelle. They flew the aircraft back to CYZV and landed with the gear retracted, on the recommendation of Fairchild. All things considered, there was very little damage to the aircraft. It remained upright, and the belly took a licking, but otherwise nothing. Maintenance jacked it up, replaced the right main outer cylinder, repaired the belly with duct tape and ferried it back to base. They had another F-27 where the gear was inadvertently retracted with the airplane on chocks at the gate, and that one had far more damage.
 
Old 31st Jan 2001, 07:27
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pigboat,

I hadn't heard of that incident, but the outcome of it is exactly what got me thinking about this. The method adopted could actually mean the difference between life or death to those on board.

Code Blue - good point about deceleration forces.
 

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