Beards at BA?
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Beards at BA?
A strange question I know, but I'm a F/O at Chippy Fryer and now we're coming into British Airways, I wondered whether there was a policy on beards.
I have one and read another post (by 1.32 Vmd) that they're not allowed.
Anybody in the know?
Cheers.
I have one and read another post (by 1.32 Vmd) that they're not allowed.
Anybody in the know?
Cheers.
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Beards are OK. Even CC are now allowed them - including the ladies!
Flying Crew Orders 2516:-
"The efficiency of an oxygen mask depends upon satisfactory sealing between the face and the mask. A beard will impair this efficiency and will increase the consumption of oxygen thus depleting the supply for all Flight Crew members. The wearing of beards is, therefore discouraged.
If worn, beards must be short, well trimmed and their style compatible with the design of oxygen mask on the aircraft for which the crew member is qualified."
Hope this helps.
ATB,
Underdog
Flying Crew Orders 2516:-
"The efficiency of an oxygen mask depends upon satisfactory sealing between the face and the mask. A beard will impair this efficiency and will increase the consumption of oxygen thus depleting the supply for all Flight Crew members. The wearing of beards is, therefore discouraged.
If worn, beards must be short, well trimmed and their style compatible with the design of oxygen mask on the aircraft for which the crew member is qualified."
Hope this helps.
ATB,
Underdog
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That is, indeed, true.
There is however also a mention that "....cult fashions such as facial piercings, use of loud hair colourings, handlebar moustaches...etc. etc. ad infinutum" are not allowed.
This might seem irrelevant but I refer to goatees. Some senior pilots think of them as a cult fashion, so though a beard may be fine, a goatee could be completely unacceptable! I thought about growing one last year but in the end thought it not worth the hassle. Useless information but hope it helps.
What I don't understand is why goaties can be unacceptable but handlebar moustaches get a blind eye turned.
Amazing...
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There is however also a mention that "....cult fashions such as facial piercings, use of loud hair colourings, handlebar moustaches...etc. etc. ad infinutum" are not allowed.
This might seem irrelevant but I refer to goatees. Some senior pilots think of them as a cult fashion, so though a beard may be fine, a goatee could be completely unacceptable! I thought about growing one last year but in the end thought it not worth the hassle. Useless information but hope it helps.
What I don't understand is why goaties can be unacceptable but handlebar moustaches get a blind eye turned.
Amazing...
[This message has been edited by Wig and Pen (edited 21 May 2001).]
[This message has been edited by Wig and Pen (edited 21 May 2001).]
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That "imperfect seal" around the O2 mask yarn is rubbish - we disproved it at Lockheed in the eighties when a much-needed instrumentation engineer refused to part with his full beard. We put him in a USAF altitude chamber and there was absolutely no truth to that myth.
The REAL reason they are dangerous, though, is that they can become saturated with pure O2 just before you yank off the mask and run through a fire to ground egress. If so - why do we keep the polyester uniforms, especially ties? A ready-made face torch.
Too bad beards are universally condemned here in US airlines - I had a good one when I flew corporate. It broke up the monotony of my face.....
The REAL reason they are dangerous, though, is that they can become saturated with pure O2 just before you yank off the mask and run through a fire to ground egress. If so - why do we keep the polyester uniforms, especially ties? A ready-made face torch.
Too bad beards are universally condemned here in US airlines - I had a good one when I flew corporate. It broke up the monotony of my face.....
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Chippy Fryer
My mother always used to say that you should never trust a man with a beard - he's obviously got a great deal to hide. Do you think that BA should look into this matter, particularly with the emphasis of the importance of the customer having complete confidence?
My mother always used to say that you should never trust a man with a beard - he's obviously got a great deal to hide. Do you think that BA should look into this matter, particularly with the emphasis of the importance of the customer having complete confidence?
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An interesting suggestion by your mother, 1.32 Vmd.
Though I have nothing but the best intentions for BA at heart, there are some things in life I hold particularly close to my.....face. And my beard is one of them.
Sorry Mrs "1.32 Vmd", but if BA say the beard can stay; It stays.
Though I have nothing but the best intentions for BA at heart, there are some things in life I hold particularly close to my.....face. And my beard is one of them.
Sorry Mrs "1.32 Vmd", but if BA say the beard can stay; It stays.
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1.32 Vmd; I can only assume you don't, and never have had a beard.
I hope, also, that your comment about what your mum says was a joke. If not, it's time you started forming your own opinions and grew up.
Come on, 1.32 Vmd, act your age, you're a big boy now.
I hope, also, that your comment about what your mum says was a joke. If not, it's time you started forming your own opinions and grew up.
Come on, 1.32 Vmd, act your age, you're a big boy now.
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Met a BA MiniBus Captain once in Hanover about 3/4 years ago - looked as though he should have been Captain of a White Star four funneler rather than a Toulouse single aisler.
Had a beard which rather resembled that of the sailor who used to appear on the outside of Players cigarette packets. The wingspan was only marginally smaller than that of his airplane.
Any BA staff out there know who I'm talking about ?
Had a beard which rather resembled that of the sailor who used to appear on the outside of Players cigarette packets. The wingspan was only marginally smaller than that of his airplane.
Any BA staff out there know who I'm talking about ?
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Hussar- I met this guy in Geneva about 7 years ago, and in the Belgrano recently. He has retired now but flies privately. Slightly shortish, but very imposing- it's not often you see people suit a beard as well as that. Seemed to me the Captain of the Titanic should have looked like that, saluting as the water rose.........
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I wonder what the EU Court of Human Rights would make of a company that tried to ban beards, cult fashions or body piercing?
And as a complete aside, I love Bob Monkhouse's observation on ponytails.
"They're exactly the same on a horse or a man, lift it up and you'll find an @rsehole underneath!"
Bless him!
And as a complete aside, I love Bob Monkhouse's observation on ponytails.
"They're exactly the same on a horse or a man, lift it up and you'll find an @rsehole underneath!"
Bless him!
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Most people seem to think that beards are "put on" by those that wear it. In fact this coudn't be further from the truth. Beards are part of your face and some people choose to shave, but that is exactly my point. So next time you see someone with a beard, he hasn't put on something on his face, the bloke without, has taken away something from HIS face!!!!!!
