Beechcraft King Air 200 CONFUSED!

[atheuma]

Dear all,

I have been contacted to fly a B200 on the right hand seat. The owner said I dont need a type rating. Now I dont know if his aircraft is listed as one or multi crew in his AOC.

Jar ops says that under single pilot one must have a type rating for the B200 to act as PIC.

I beleive that if it is listed as one crew, I dont need a typerating and as such I cannot log hours.

If it is listed as multicrew under commercial operations, I will need a typerating in order to log hours. Correct?

So in any case I cant log hours without a type rating.

[Mercenary Pilot]

I beleive that if it is listed as one crew, I dont need a typerating and as such I cannot log hours.

Correct, but you shouldn't actually be flying ether. Only using the radios and filling in the paperwork etc. Quite a few B200 operators use 'assistants' in this way. If you are a new pilot straight from flight school, its a good way of gaining real experience even if you cant actually log the hours.

If it is listed as multicrew under commercial operations, I will need a typerating in order to log hours. Correct?

Correct.

So in any case I cant log hours without a type rating.

Again correct, although I suppose you could write the hours down in your 'other' column in your logbook. You couldn't include these hours in your actual total times though, so it would only really be useful to show a future employer what you had been doing previously.

[peterperfect]

Is he paying you for it, and charging a client who wants two crew ?

[atheuma]

I wouldnt say he is paying me for it. He is giving me 25 euros per day I believe to cover my expenses. Any suggestions? What do you mean by the other coloumn?

[Der absolute Hammer]

Reckon Mercenary Pilot is correct on all counts.
Is your prospective employer paying you a pitiful per diem and then charging the client as though the aircraft came with two crew? Because if you're not type rated, it doesn't come with two crew. It comes with a pilot and, as said, ssistant/coffe boy.
The other column: In most log books, UK/SA there is a column for 'any other flying' SNY. Just keep a record of it so that you can be seen to have filled in some part of your flying ladder with something vaguely useful. If the pilot has an instructor rating valid on type, you could, at a stretch, log the time as dual?
Perhaps you might ask if you will be covered under the company medical insurance/whatever if there is an accident or incident. If you're down on the manifest as crew and your not crew, you might not be covered?

[390cruise]

AOC ?

Hi

Let us assume that this operation is public transport (charter) as appears to be stated above.

In this case the crewing requirements of the aircraft type will be defined in the company manuals carried onboard. Also the experience, qualifications and
roles of each crew member.

So perhaps that is where you should seek the answers?

390

[ab33t]

Safety pilot common practice , good experience