German Corner

[gatbusdriver]

Could someone please tell me where the German Corner is. I heard some Lufthansa chaps asking for direct there the other day.

Lat and long or nearest waypoint would be great.

[The Real Slim Shady]

KRH 270 /12

Close enough?

[Rainboe]

I know it well! It is the corner of the French/German FIR at the top right corner of France that juts into Germany, Alsace or Lorraine (can never remember which), the cause of several wars between the participants and regularly swapping hands since 1870, and probably several times before then. The French have it now. Must be time for some fireworks again- if we can kill the EC off it will swap again, and German corner will be something like KRH270/180! German ATC is excellent about letting you graze the corner to save time!

[gatbusdriver]

PBD is fine.

Thanks for that.

[PENKO]

What I do not understand is why, after all these years, they don't make it a suitable waypoint. Call it CORNR or whatever. Can't be that difficult.

[BOAC]

It is a bit political!

[WallyWumpus]

I thought it was called ABKUT on the database.......

[Finbarr]

It's where the Mosel meets the Rhine, in Koblenz. Known locally as "Deutches Eck". There's a statue of Kaiser Bill there. Having been sent 'direct to' it loads of times in the air it was a pleasure to be there on terra firma yesterday!

[fantom]

First heard that when I was on Dan 727s...a while ago !

[Reimers]

It's where the Mosel meets the Rhine, in Koblenz. Known locally as "Deutches Eck". There's a statue of Kaiser Bill there. Having been sent 'direct to' it loads of times in the air it was a pleasure to be there on terra firma yesterday!

Yes, that's the German Corner (Deutsches Eck) on the ground, but don't fly there when receiving a direct to the german corner. ATC will expect you to track to KRH/270/12, as stated correctly by The Real Slim Shady.

[SOPS]

There used to be an airways marker there...the only one i have ever seen

[fireflybob]

There used to be an airways marker there...the only one i have ever seen

Some of us can remember quite a few of those! Compton and Sevenoaks spring to mind and seem to recall there was one near Braintree (Essex)!

[ExSp33db1rd]

Who remembers Nassers' Corner, where a bit of the Sudan jutted into Egypt and we weren't allowed to fly a straight line going Southbound to Nairobi ?

[arem]

Wasn't there an outcrop of mountains there - or at least enough to show up on the wax radar. Didn't do many Africans on 707's the occasional EBB freighter - on one of which I managed a cecumzenith fix on the sun.

[Mikehotel152]

ATC will expect you to track to KRH/270/12, as stated correctly by The Real Slim Shady

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I thought it was called ABKUT on the database.......

Unusually, I didn't bring a High Level chart home for light reading, so I can't check, but Isn't EDISO close too?

[172_driver]

ABUKA (low level) and EDISA (high level) springs to mind.. haven't heard German Corner for a while. I always used KRH270/13