"Captain" or not bothered
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Would recommend reading the book, "Call Me Captain". Unfortunately I can't remember the author, but I believe he was with B.A.
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I'm a 5th year FO now on the A320 family, UK carrier.
First name terms for me between me and the Captain.
That leaves "Captain" as a formal title for extra impact if needed...eg CAPTAIN YOU MUST GO AROUND.....
My 2 bob...
First name terms for me between me and the Captain.
That leaves "Captain" as a formal title for extra impact if needed...eg CAPTAIN YOU MUST GO AROUND.....
My 2 bob...
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I think most aspects have been covered here and in other threads. Sometimes it is a cultural thing and at other times it is just a case of normal practice within your company.
What we do have to guard against are those who would deliberately try to devalue the position and denigrate the holder, sad to say a couple are evident on this thread.
(not you, Slowto280!
)
What we do have to guard against are those who would deliberately try to devalue the position and denigrate the holder, sad to say a couple are evident on this thread.
(not you, Slowto280!
)
Especially as I was dressed in jeans and a sweatshirt.
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Would recommend reading the book, "Call Me Captain". Unfortunately I can't remember the author, but I believe he was with B.A
I'm going to take a guess it's the same person as wrote "The Naked Pilot", though I welcome correction if not.
Edited to add: Further searching turns up the suggestion that he originally used the nom de plume Paul Stanton for the earlier editions.
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"Edited to add: Further searching turns up the suggestion that he originally used the nom de plume Paul Stanton for the earlier editions."
That name does sound familiar - it was a good read and raised a few laughs.
That name does sound familiar - it was a good read and raised a few laughs.
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I've worked for two deep-deep-south airlines, and at both of them, referring to the skip as "Captain" has been reserved in policy for the most dire of situations. Such as "Captain, you must listen to me" or the phrase uttered by CC to initiate a flight deck lock-down.
Call any of our guys Captain, directly, and they'd most likely soil themselves thinking that your succeeding conversation was going to imply major poop vs. fan...
Call any of our guys Captain, directly, and they'd most likely soil themselves thinking that your succeeding conversation was going to imply major poop vs. fan...
respect is due
always called the skipper 'captain'
or, if addressing both pilots (or all the cockpit crew if more than 2) i would always say 'good morning/evening gentlemen'
i suppose i was brought up to call the local bobby 'sir'
but a ship's skipper or an aircraft skipper deserves to be called captain,
most, if not all earned it.
i am amazed at F/O's who resent this term to their colleague.
any crew or ground staff who have an issue with that then they are in the wrong job.
i was assistant to station manager and in the good old days of smart uniforms i had 3 then 4 gold rings too (thin gold ones mind lol),
i was very popular as i was a gent and calm and respected everyone.
i'm not perfect but i had an easy ride.
or, if addressing both pilots (or all the cockpit crew if more than 2) i would always say 'good morning/evening gentlemen'
i suppose i was brought up to call the local bobby 'sir'
but a ship's skipper or an aircraft skipper deserves to be called captain,
most, if not all earned it.
i am amazed at F/O's who resent this term to their colleague.
any crew or ground staff who have an issue with that then they are in the wrong job.
i was assistant to station manager and in the good old days of smart uniforms i had 3 then 4 gold rings too (thin gold ones mind lol),
i was very popular as i was a gent and calm and respected everyone.
i'm not perfect but i had an easy ride.
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I insist on being addressed as Captain, until "stood down", when Sir will suffice. We cant let standards slip, can we.
I also require CC to carry my bags, as the FD crew have refused this privilege. However I take the precaution of bringing my own food and drink to work.
I also require CC to carry my bags, as the FD crew have refused this privilege. However I take the precaution of bringing my own food and drink to work.
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All cultural. I used to work in a very strict "captain" country. I laughed at the 
that required he be called captain at home by his servants!!!
I prefer my name, and have found never has my respect or authority been endangered. They are not a consequence of titles but of actions and how you manage your crew, I thinks!!
Cabins where FOs have to say Captain every second phrase become vertical and cold.
Tair
that required he be called captain at home by his servants!!!I prefer my name, and have found never has my respect or authority been endangered. They are not a consequence of titles but of actions and how you manage your crew, I thinks!!
Cabins where FOs have to say Captain every second phrase become vertical and cold.
Tair
Fascinating stuff for an old sailor, as is the following thread telling it the way our friends Down Under saw the matter in 2002:
Captain Queegs of the Cockpit
Plus ça change and all that .....
I'm also reminded of Cary Grant playing the submarine CO in, I believe, Operation Petticoat, saying something on the lines of "In this submarine we're all known by our nicknames, and my nickname is 'Captain' "!
Jack
Captain Queegs of the Cockpit
Plus ça change and all that .....
I'm also reminded of Cary Grant playing the submarine CO in, I believe, Operation Petticoat, saying something on the lines of "In this submarine we're all known by our nicknames, and my nickname is 'Captain' "!
Jack
