Flight crew versus Flight Deck
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Flight crew versus Flight Deck
Why is it a lot of the cabin (read cabin crew) insist on calling The Flight Crew the Flight Deck? Is it a term of disrespect or is it just a sign of poor grammar?
The flight deck is inanimate (especially in my airline) and is a place where the flight crew work.
I am looking forward to my Coffee surprise!
The flight deck is inanimate (especially in my airline) and is a place where the flight crew work.
I am looking forward to my Coffee surprise!
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I worked with PanAm... 1969 to 1991.
So, might not be much of a correct Oxford English language reference.
I speak like they do in Yankistan.
In the cockpit, we often referred to "call the cabin", when meaning "call the flight attendants".
I am certain, the cabin staff used something like "call the cockpit" or "call the flight deck".
I agree with you, Mona... strange airline crew grammar and vocabulary.
I never called passengers SLF... I often wrote PAX, our "abbreviation".
xxx
Is like those of us, pilots and flight engineers saying "the girls" to refer to male and female cabin staff.
Comes maybe from the long gone days when the large majority of them were ladies
I honestly do not believe we meant to be demeaning in talking like that...
xxx
For the last few years, I worked with crews of Spanish language.
There again, I heard them say "los pilotos" even to include a flight engineer.
Or us to say "la cabina" when referring to the cabin staff.
xxx
I love proper language, at least in English...
But what can we do about it...?
Look at Pprune forums, and cry like I do, about English language and spelling...
Excusable for people speaking other languages, BUT NOT for Anglo Saxons.
And I am not even Anglo Saxon...!
xxx
All the best -
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So, might not be much of a correct Oxford English language reference.
I speak like they do in Yankistan.
In the cockpit, we often referred to "call the cabin", when meaning "call the flight attendants".
I am certain, the cabin staff used something like "call the cockpit" or "call the flight deck".
I agree with you, Mona... strange airline crew grammar and vocabulary.
I never called passengers SLF... I often wrote PAX, our "abbreviation".
xxx
Is like those of us, pilots and flight engineers saying "the girls" to refer to male and female cabin staff.
Comes maybe from the long gone days when the large majority of them were ladies
I honestly do not believe we meant to be demeaning in talking like that...
xxx
For the last few years, I worked with crews of Spanish language.
There again, I heard them say "los pilotos" even to include a flight engineer.
Or us to say "la cabina" when referring to the cabin staff.
xxx
I love proper language, at least in English...
But what can we do about it...?
Look at Pprune forums, and cry like I do, about English language and spelling...
Excusable for people speaking other languages, BUT NOT for Anglo Saxons.
And I am not even Anglo Saxon...!
xxx
All the best -
Happy contrails
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Our cabin crew refer to the folks up front as...the cockpit, or sometimes... the tech crew.
The pilots refer to the back end workers as...the cabin.
The guy/gal in charge of the cabin crew is called...cabin chief, or simply...chief.
The pilots refer to the back end workers as...the cabin.
The guy/gal in charge of the cabin crew is called...cabin chief, or simply...chief.
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There's a few in my company who take issue with being called "flight deck". I just can't get excited about it either way - does it matter? I don't think so. Needless to say, I've got over it
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At our place we were all Flight Deck Crew because we had both pilots and flight engineers. This somehow got contracted to "Flightdeck" but not further shortened to "Pilot" when our 747-200s went.
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"According to Bandai the name is a portmanteau combining the Japanese word "たまご" (tamago) which means "egg", and the English word "watch" (as in timepieces)
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I don't think there's any disrespect intended.
The crewing department at my airline is split into Pilots and Cabin Crew options. The idea being that when someone rings up they can talk straight to the relevant department.
The Pilot option used to say "If you are a flight crew member, please press 1". Trouble is, Cabin Crews regarded themselves as Flight Crew too, and so would press the wrong option and get through to someone who didn't have access to the relevant systems.
We now separate it into "Pilots" and "Cabin Crew" for ease of reference, but the desks in my office are still known as "Cabin Crew" and "Flight Deck".
Doesn't mean anything either way. It's just a term of reference. Both are needed before a flight can depart anyway!
The crewing department at my airline is split into Pilots and Cabin Crew options. The idea being that when someone rings up they can talk straight to the relevant department.
The Pilot option used to say "If you are a flight crew member, please press 1". Trouble is, Cabin Crews regarded themselves as Flight Crew too, and so would press the wrong option and get through to someone who didn't have access to the relevant systems.
We now separate it into "Pilots" and "Cabin Crew" for ease of reference, but the desks in my office are still known as "Cabin Crew" and "Flight Deck".
Doesn't mean anything either way. It's just a term of reference. Both are needed before a flight can depart anyway!
