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The pilot who landed that plane IS a hero in my opinion, cause according to many of you pilots...none of you would have had a hope in hell of doing what he did. Well maybe not all of you, but many pilots have expressed surprise that it was actually "possible". Not really the attitude to have considering you spend a lot of your flying time over water!!
Yes he did his job, but he did his job perfectly and he saved everyones life. To save peoples lives makes someone a hero, and believe me if it had been one of your loved ones on that flight you too would not question this aspect.
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Yes he did his job, but he did his job perfectly and he saved everyones life. To save peoples lives makes someone a hero, and believe me if it had been one of your loved ones on that flight you too would not question this aspect.
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Dash7Ace,
I couldn't agree with you more!!!! The cockpit is a team environment and the praise should be to both pilots!!!!
THEY did a fantastic job!!!!
And to the rest of you critics, YES I am a FO and proud of it!
I couldn't agree with you more!!!! The cockpit is a team environment and the praise should be to both pilots!!!!
THEY did a fantastic job!!!!
And to the rest of you critics, YES I am a FO and proud of it!
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Oh well I suppose us FO's will just have to wait our turn to wear 4 stripes, then we will get the praise! Rainboe is right in what he says though, it works the other way too if things go wrong...
WE have no doubt that the guy in the RHS was working just as hard as our hero in the left. The public might not, as in we are known as 'co-pilots', just sitting there waiting to do what we are told... thanks mainly to the media....
Flightdeck aside though, I think its disgusting how the media have almost ignored the effort of the Cabin Crew in all of this. Yes the FD got it down in one piece, but after that the survival of the passengers was down to the professionalism of the CC. They did a fantastic job getting all of those people off safely.
WE have no doubt that the guy in the RHS was working just as hard as our hero in the left. The public might not, as in we are known as 'co-pilots', just sitting there waiting to do what we are told... thanks mainly to the media....
Flightdeck aside though, I think its disgusting how the media have almost ignored the effort of the Cabin Crew in all of this. Yes the FD got it down in one piece, but after that the survival of the passengers was down to the professionalism of the CC. They did a fantastic job getting all of those people off safely.
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News report BBC tonight had an interview with a survivor in hospital who said the co-pilot had taken the shirt off his back to wrap around the survivor who was cold.
Oh yeah! I thought till said survivor pulled back hospital sheet to reveal, wrapped around his shoulders a white shirt with 3-bar epaulettes.
Hats off to RHS guy.
Cusco
Oh yeah! I thought till said survivor pulled back hospital sheet to reveal, wrapped around his shoulders a white shirt with 3-bar epaulettes.
Hats off to RHS guy.
Cusco
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Bit like the sioux City DC10 incident, bloke who did the most work was a positioning pilot who was sat down the back, came up front to offer any help and was him that pointed out they had lost all hydraulics, and then came up with the idea of using centre and pod engine power to adjust the pitch, not the bloke in the left seat
I think "Sully" also deserves the hero badge for making a tour of the cabin twice after the thing was down to be sure everyone was off the plane. He was the last one off the sinking ship.
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There is absolutely no point in carping about it. That's how it is, and that is how the news organisations see it.
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Pfffhhh, the applause should go to the one handling the plane in this particular instance
, from my experience handling the aircraft has always been a lot easier then handling ECAM drills, QRH and FCOM's!
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Regardless who was PF/Handling pilot - surely the Captain would have taken control almost immediately after the incident?
In this 'new' MCC airline environment
basic facts and operating procedures in most emergency situations dictate who is flying, regardless of what some other crew members might desire, or think is appropriate.
Without knowing the details, it sounds like it was mostly the Captain's show - the FO would have been relegated to what limited support duties he could provdide in that short space of time.
It's called Command Responsibility.
The company says so.
The regulatory authority says so.
Case closed.
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I hope the young pilots out there with their heads buried in the SOP manual will remember this.
Incidentally, it was also a LEFT turn to align with the river: if the Capt had let the FO fly it as he / she started the sector as nominated PF, they would have had a great view of a roof panel full of switches during the critical turn!
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Or to look at it another way, without wishing to undermine the old Ego-saur (heaven forbid) - who cares? They got down in one piece.
From reports it would appear the F/O was a very experienced guy, had the F/O been PF at the time of the failure, the captain may well have elected to leave flying the a/c to him while he considered the available areas to get down safely. Whatever the captain did, he made the right choice.
Does anyone honestly give a who landed the thing?
From reports it would appear the F/O was a very experienced guy, had the F/O been PF at the time of the failure, the captain may well have elected to leave flying the a/c to him while he considered the available areas to get down safely. Whatever the captain did, he made the right choice.
Does anyone honestly give a
who landed the thing?
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F/O Jeff Skiles
His father was interviewed on CNN's "Lou Dobbs Tonight" last night. Skiles has 26 years flying, IIRC, and was no doubt a Capt. in the better years of Allegheny/Piedmont/AmericaWest.
30 years ago I was told Eastern Airlines, RIP, had had 13 major accidents, and in every one of them the First Officer was flying. Turns out the F/O's weren't bad pilots, but the Captains were just lousy copilots.
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30 years ago I was told Eastern Airlines, RIP, had had 13 major accidents, and in every one of them the First Officer was flying. Turns out the F/O's weren't bad pilots, but the Captains were just lousy copilots.
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term 'hero' idd, it's not as if he sacrificed his own life by diving into a fire to save someone.
He tried to save his own ass, and in doing so, happend to save the passengers.
Still a good job though!!
He tried to save his own ass, and in doing so, happend to save the passengers.
Still a good job though!!
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There's always one! He'd be the villain if he failed, so if people want to call him a hero when he succeeded, for goodness sake don't rain on their parade! There's enough bad news around at the moment- stop trying to spoil their triumph and relief. I can tell you, not once would he have used that word to describe himself. It was an uninvited situation that he used his skill to overcome. All he will feel is relief, and profound questioning of himself as to whether he could have done better or avoided the situation altogether. So stop trying to throw a wet blanket on it!
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He'd be the villain if he failed, so if people want to call him a hero when he succeeded, for goodness sake don't rain on their parade! There's enough bad news around at the moment- stop trying to spoil their triumph and relief. I can tell you, not once would he have used that word to describe himself. It was an uninvited situation that he used his skill to overcome. All he will feel is relief, and profound questioning of himself as to whether he could have done better or avoided the situation altogether. So stop trying to throw a wet blanket on it!
Captain Sully did just fine, so did his very able First Officer...and not to forget, his very able cabin crew.
Simply put...a job very well done...by ALL.
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It is always the case that the chief is the one who gets the plaudits, and is also the one who cops it in the neck when things turn to worms. Matters not whether its a general leading a battle in war, president of a country, or the captain of a ship/aircraft. It goes without saying that the people they lead have had a hand in the success or failure of the enterprise. Should the leader receive some recognition as a result you will often find that he/she will tell you "I wear it in recognition of the efforts of my country/men and women/company/platoon/crew". We are endowed with more than our share of egotists though, however kudos to all in this event.
