RWY length requirements
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Hi. This has nothing to do with my work at SV nor do I have any professional interest in this question whatsoever (so please feel free to reprimand me if I've used the wrong forum).
Here goes... when Michael O'Leary announced his long haul plans for a Ryanair "spin-off" he spoke of smaller airports outside of major US cities.
Airports I suspect such as Islip-Long Island McArthur or White Plains-Westchester County for new York in addition to Manchester-NH for Boston.
Long Island has a RWY length of 2100 meter with White Plains closer to 1950 mtrs.
As an accountant with a PPL my knowledge of Runway length is very small and we obviously do not work with such information in Yield Analysis so here comes the question - are these small airports large enough to physically handle long haul aircraft like the 787s that O'Leary has spoken of?
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Here goes... when Michael O'Leary announced his long haul plans for a Ryanair "spin-off" he spoke of smaller airports outside of major US cities.
Airports I suspect such as Islip-Long Island McArthur or White Plains-Westchester County for new York in addition to Manchester-NH for Boston.
Long Island has a RWY length of 2100 meter with White Plains closer to 1950 mtrs.
As an accountant with a PPL my knowledge of Runway length is very small and we obviously do not work with such information in Yield Analysis so here comes the question - are these small airports large enough to physically handle long haul aircraft like the 787s that O'Leary has spoken of?
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Yes the 2nd, But is the terminal big enough?
That's the big question.
Take 'Princess Juliana' in St Maarten Island only just big enough to handle the pax for a 747.
HUY (Humberside) has had occasional large Aircraft inc Concorde.
HUY would have a big job handling a DC10 or Tristar size A/c.
That's the big question.
Take 'Princess Juliana' in St Maarten Island only just big enough to handle the pax for a 747.
HUY (Humberside) has had occasional large Aircraft inc Concorde.
HUY would have a big job handling a DC10 or Tristar size A/c.
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Long Island has a RWY length of 2100 meter with White Plains closer to 1950 mtrs
You will see your employer operate direct RUH-JFK/IAD with the 787 in 2012, which is something that the present 777 cant do!
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Nope, they don't have customs or immigration. The terminal facilities are also completely unsuitable. The runways were the question that bothered me though, seems a too short runway is probably a much harder obstacle that a lack of customs coverage.
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I would be very surprised if MoL really meant airports with small runways like the ones you mentioned.
Instead I think he meant those 'smaller' airports outside the major cities which still have a 'long' runway and a fair amount of regional or continental traffic, but which do not have any intercontinental traffic due to less demand. I guess the 787 would just fit into those markets - leading away from the well established hub traffic for intercont, going to point-to-point intercontinental flights.
Instead I think he meant those 'smaller' airports outside the major cities which still have a 'long' runway and a fair amount of regional or continental traffic, but which do not have any intercontinental traffic due to less demand. I guess the 787 would just fit into those markets - leading away from the well established hub traffic for intercont, going to point-to-point intercontinental flights.
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I guess the 787 would just fit into those markets - leading away from the well established hub traffic for intercont, going to point-to-point intercontinental flights.
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@ mutt
do you think that point-point, non-business friendly, non-cargo friendly routes will be commercially viable?
As opposed to Airbus, who build the A380, thinking the future will be with increased traffic going through the hubs and thus requiring larger aircraft.
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Costs?
What about the cost of such a venture? How much fuel would a currently available aircraft - say a 757 or 767 actually use flying Europe-NYC? and surely it would take packed aircraft to even break even.
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Dbate, the 787 will be an excellent point to point aircraft on routes with high yield passengers and cargo because, whilst the aircraft burns about 5,000 kgs per hour, the lease/purchase costs will be substantial. Look at who is buying the A380, with the exception of Qantas, the others are hub airlines (IIRC). The 2 aircraft are at totally different ends of the spectrum.
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The 2 aircraft are at totally different ends of the spectrum.
Anyway, I am pretty sure you have a much deeper knowledge about the B787 development and the ideal business environment for it.
So long,
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Hi DAr19
Went across 2 weeks ago. Used Avitat Handling in White Plains, not bad. Definately have customs and immigration - here you go AVITAT-WESTCHESTER in KHPN
Regards, D.
Went across 2 weeks ago. Used Avitat Handling in White Plains, not bad. Definately have customs and immigration - here you go AVITAT-WESTCHESTER in KHPN
Regards, D.
