JAR ATPL restricted to UK a/c only
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JAR ATPL restricted to UK a/c only
Does anyone else out there hold a JAA ATPL with the restriction to UK registered aircraft only? Will this still be valid when EASA is introduced??
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Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
The JAA cant even agree on the validity of a type rating if one is out of check, before an initial is course is required.
They cant even agree to implement a common ICAO agreed language.
So nothing would surprise me about the JAA, when member states put nationalistic pride before safety.
The JAA cant even agree on the validity of a type rating if one is out of check, before an initial is course is required.
They cant even agree to implement a common ICAO agreed language.
So nothing would surprise me about the JAA, when member states put nationalistic pride before safety.
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On the other hand, no problems with the FAA...and you don't pay them anything for your type rating endorsement on your license.
And, that type rating doesn't expire. All that's needed is a PC, and you're good to go.
I have to laugh at you folks in EuroLand...you simply don't have it arranged right.
How ever did you get in such a fix?
And, that type rating doesn't expire. All that's needed is a PC, and you're good to go.
I have to laugh at you folks in EuroLand...you simply don't have it arranged right.
How ever did you get in such a fix?
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ASFKAP -
All this with a smile and a touch of humour...
xxx
FAA pilots and mechanics are definitely less competent and qualified.
I would recommend EASA ATC to invalidate USA carriers RVSM - give them a block of airspace.
How about the emergency equipment to be on the side of runway for every takeoff and landing.
And a notice to passengers in EU... "Beware of AA. Delta and United..." -
Something similar to cigarette pack warnings, but on airline tickets sold in EU.
Is our English satisfactory as we cannot understand "undercarriage", we say "gear"...
And would once in-for-all change American DC electrons to run in opposite direction.
xxx
We know, a US flag got used by mistake on 20 JUL 1969. Should have been the Union Jack.
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All this with a smile and a touch of humour...
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FAA pilots and mechanics are definitely less competent and qualified.
I would recommend EASA ATC to invalidate USA carriers RVSM - give them a block of airspace.
How about the emergency equipment to be on the side of runway for every takeoff and landing.
And a notice to passengers in EU... "Beware of AA. Delta and United..." -
Something similar to cigarette pack warnings, but on airline tickets sold in EU.
Is our English satisfactory as we cannot understand "undercarriage", we say "gear"...
And would once in-for-all change American DC electrons to run in opposite direction.
xxx
We know, a US flag got used by mistake on 20 JUL 1969. Should have been the Union Jack.
Happy contrails
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Anyone in the industry will tell you an FAA A+P has probably the lowest standards of any maintenance qualification...
My European licences took years to get...
Have to laugh, some (but not all) EuroLand folks seem to have their beaks well above ground effect, yet can't seem to deliver the goods.
No surprise there.
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Is it your contention, ASFKAP, that FAA rated mechanics cannot maintain large aircraft as well as JAA/EASA folks?
If so, it certainly shows you are severely misinformed.
After all, if JAA/EASA folks can't (or never could) keep the big Lockheed three-holer going, it doesn't say much for them, now does it?
If so, it certainly shows you are severely misinformed.
After all, if JAA/EASA folks can't (or never could) keep the big Lockheed three-holer going, it doesn't say much for them, now does it?
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Let me try and balance this argument up a little.
I am from neither the US or Europe. I hold JAA and FAA Licenses.
There is a system of weeding out before one puts their license to use. In the JAA states it is at the license examination, to a certain extent. In the American system the carriers themselves do a lot of weeding out. The FAA system is not as easy as some of you think. At the type rating stage you have to endure an oral examination (verbal). In an oral you can dig yourself a very large hole and bury yourself if you don't know you stuff.
The transition from the UK, for e.g., commercial license to the ATPL, examination wise, is nothing more then a weeding out exercise. In the mid seven's when I went through one of the big schools in the UK, this was confirmed. The principal even admitted it as in his own words he said, "Most of this has nothing to do with the practical side of the job you will do in the future. It is the system of weeding out" In other words from an aviation point of view, a load of rubbish. All they are doing is to check your ability to absorb and spit out on demand.
When the JAA was being "put together" the Germans and possibly one other state wanted all candidates for a JAA license to have university qualifications. That to me is wrong. The UK CAA, God bless them told them so and all. I do like the American system and their approach to aviation. KIS and cut out the B/S!
Some people get a little bit tied up with the relative importance of being a pilot or engineer in commercial Aviation. We are just that, pilots, not test pilots/engineers or astronauts, we are hopefully talking about giving licenses to.
To get your best people in you need to open the system up a little to get people with abilities included. You see, people are born with ability and not necessarily from privileged backgrounds. It cannot be bought, or taught, so to exclude aviation but to a select few, who are born into privilege for example, would be silly don't you think as you maybe excluding people who should be in.
I am from neither the US or Europe. I hold JAA and FAA Licenses.
There is a system of weeding out before one puts their license to use. In the JAA states it is at the license examination, to a certain extent. In the American system the carriers themselves do a lot of weeding out. The FAA system is not as easy as some of you think. At the type rating stage you have to endure an oral examination (verbal). In an oral you can dig yourself a very large hole and bury yourself if you don't know you stuff.
The transition from the UK, for e.g., commercial license to the ATPL, examination wise, is nothing more then a weeding out exercise. In the mid seven's when I went through one of the big schools in the UK, this was confirmed. The principal even admitted it as in his own words he said, "Most of this has nothing to do with the practical side of the job you will do in the future. It is the system of weeding out" In other words from an aviation point of view, a load of rubbish. All they are doing is to check your ability to absorb and spit out on demand.
When the JAA was being "put together" the Germans and possibly one other state wanted all candidates for a JAA license to have university qualifications. That to me is wrong. The UK CAA, God bless them told them so and all. I do like the American system and their approach to aviation. KIS and cut out the B/S!
Some people get a little bit tied up with the relative importance of being a pilot or engineer in commercial Aviation. We are just that, pilots, not test pilots/engineers or astronauts, we are hopefully talking about giving licenses to.
To get your best people in you need to open the system up a little to get people with abilities included. You see, people are born with ability and not necessarily from privileged backgrounds. It cannot be bought, or taught, so to exclude aviation but to a select few, who are born into privilege for example, would be silly don't you think as you maybe excluding people who should be in.
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Can't say I disagree with any of your thoughts, doubleu-anker, very well said.
Especially about the FAA oral exam for an aircraft type rating...it has surprised many folks who were not prepared.
The FAA system is the way it is simply because it deals with far more applicants than anywhere else, so it has to be streamlined, otherwise it would grind to a halt in short order.
Especially about the FAA oral exam for an aircraft type rating...it has surprised many folks who were not prepared.
The FAA system is the way it is simply because it deals with far more applicants than anywhere else, so it has to be streamlined, otherwise it would grind to a halt in short order.
