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Old 1st Sep 2008, 03:53
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Why is "The Ramp" known as "The Ramp"...

....when it's (effectively) flat?
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Purely a wild ass guess - maybe sea plane days long ago??
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When it is the "tarmac"!!

About time we had a better name.
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Used to be called the "pan"....................
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Purely a wild ass guess - maybe sea plane days long ago??
Full marks, sir. Well done.
Actually, from the old PanAmerican Clipper days, so long ago.
Probably...in the UK as well, at about the same time.

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The book, "Chosen Instrument, the story of PanAmerican".
Author: Bender.
A superb read, if you can find a copy...much history about the old airline days.
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Now I'm even more confused.

Ramp as a sea plane base? I thought (still) water was flatter than tarmac - although sloping water would save the need for speedboats during water skiing sessions, I suppose.

Milt - what if it's asphalt, or even sand?

ETOPS - a military term, methinks - but again, "why". Where do these terms come from?
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I'll bite.

Ramp as in the ramp you pull the boats out of the water on.

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Many flying boat types...
Land on the water (wheels retracted, as you might expect).
Slow to a stop.
Extend wheels.
Taxi up onto the land, via an inclined ramp.

A superb arrangement.
Works good, lasts a long time.

Hence...RAMP.

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Many flying boat types...
Land on the water (wheels retracted, as you might expect).
Slow to a stop.
Extend wheels.
Taxi up onto the land, via an inclined ramp.
If you visit Puerto Pollensa in North Mallorca in the early summer, you can watch the Canadair fire bombers doing this after their practice sorties in the bay.

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Yup, in spades.
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When a pron not a pron?

When it's an Apron

Silly, I know but theres another term for wher one parks.

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I'm pretty sure that the only country where I ever encountered the term "ramp" is the USA. Hence I understand the term though have never used it anywhere else. I might stand to be corrected, but have an idea that it might also be used in Canada.
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And to watch a seaplane land on some water with the gear down. see here YouTube - Sea Plane Crash

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From the old seaplane days, concur with 411A

Also referred to as the Apron because it skirts (hangs)around the Terminal Building.

Interested to know more about the origins of 'pan' any other ideas on that one?
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A lot of radiotelephony calls for aviation hark back to nautical days.

Mayday, as you might already know, comes from the French for "Help me" - "m'aide".

As for Pan - we can thank the French again!
It is derived from the French word "panne" which is used to describe a piece of machinery that has some kind of malfunction.
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Hi Farrell
Thanks for that,

What I was trying to determine was where did the reference to PAN as an alternative name for Ramp or Apron come from quite distinct from the
PAN - PAN call which has been used in the marine and aviation industry for many years as a distress (may need help) call.
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What I was trying to determine was where did the reference to PAN as an alternative name for Ramp or Apron
Military airfields often had dispersed aircraft parking areas that were circular and accessed via a single straight taxiway. They resembled a cooking or frying pan in shape, which may be a clue!
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Well I was impressed by the trix for kids in MRS. Another one of their hives...
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I'm pretty sure that the only country where I ever encountered the term "ramp" is the USA. Hence I understand the term though have never used it anywhere else. I might stand to be corrected, but have an idea that it might also be used in Canada.
In Italy is 'rampa' and who works there, a "rampista". Not sure about other latin countries.
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