En Route Alternates question
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En Route Alternates question
Greetings All,
For those of you who do more long haul flying than I do perhaps you could advise on say a 6 + hour flight, do you have Jepp Charts, Notams, and WX for those alternates on board with you. My understanding is that you must have them (all 3 items). I have been given a 'trip kit' that mentions a few enroute alternates with their forcasts, but supplies no Jepp charts or Notams for them on the basis that in all probability you won't be using them anyway. Seems to convenient a 'cop out' for me. I want all 3. What do you think ?
For those of you who do more long haul flying than I do perhaps you could advise on say a 6 + hour flight, do you have Jepp Charts, Notams, and WX for those alternates on board with you. My understanding is that you must have them (all 3 items). I have been given a 'trip kit' that mentions a few enroute alternates with their forcasts, but supplies no Jepp charts or Notams for them on the basis that in all probability you won't be using them anyway. Seems to convenient a 'cop out' for me. I want all 3. What do you think ?
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I go to my dispatch office and make copies of the charts I need that aren't in the library, I'm sure you can do the same. If you're not happy with that method, talk to your safety representative and approach it from that standpoint, good luck.
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Trip kits by Jeppesen
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The trip kits supplied by Jeppesen issued from FRA and DEN are quite satisfactory, when it comes to airport charts, approaches, SIDs and STARs. Ask specifically (over the phone or by email) for some airports that might not be included. Specify the enroute charts you may require, LOW ALT (and HI ALT if needed) and maybe plotting chart(s) if oceanic flight. These trip kits are "one time issue only" - no revision service. Get a small 7-ring binder to put them all together.
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Up to date NOTAMs, and latest TAFs and METARs for departure, enroute alternates and destination should be supplied to you for your route when you file your flight plan at the airport flight ops office. Bon vol - goeie vlucht.
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The trip kits supplied by Jeppesen issued from FRA and DEN are quite satisfactory, when it comes to airport charts, approaches, SIDs and STARs. Ask specifically (over the phone or by email) for some airports that might not be included. Specify the enroute charts you may require, LOW ALT (and HI ALT if needed) and maybe plotting chart(s) if oceanic flight. These trip kits are "one time issue only" - no revision service. Get a small 7-ring binder to put them all together.
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Up to date NOTAMs, and latest TAFs and METARs for departure, enroute alternates and destination should be supplied to you for your route when you file your flight plan at the airport flight ops office. Bon vol - goeie vlucht.
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If you have an emergency that requires you to divert to an en route alternate and you don't have any approach plates for that airport then you have just doubled the emergency and halved your chances of getting down safely.
I was lucky enough to work for a major long haul airline, (SIA B744), who provided not only all the charts you would need for your route but just about every other chart that you could possibly think of for airports that, under the most unlikely of circumstances, you may have had to land at.
Much cheaper to provide charts that may never be used than to pay up for an aircraft that came to grief because it didn't know where it was going.
I was lucky enough to work for a major long haul airline, (SIA B744), who provided not only all the charts you would need for your route but just about every other chart that you could possibly think of for airports that, under the most unlikely of circumstances, you may have had to land at.
Much cheaper to provide charts that may never be used than to pay up for an aircraft that came to grief because it didn't know where it was going.
