Working in Germany??
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Working in Germany??
Hi there,
I have done a search on working in Germany but it found me nothing, so i am asking for any help or advise on how to work over there for say Lufthansa Cityline?
By this i am looking for advice and or the possibility of converting an Australian ATPL to the JAA equivalent?
Does any one know anything on this process if it can be done?
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I have done a search on working in Germany but it found me nothing, so i am asking for any help or advise on how to work over there for say Lufthansa Cityline?
By this i am looking for advice and or the possibility of converting an Australian ATPL to the JAA equivalent?
Does any one know anything on this process if it can be done?
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One keeps hearing of low European pay and high taxation (50%). I think the UK is where it's at, but by Jiminy Cricket, the taxation is more than high enough there and the cost of living high. I was going to say astronomical, but I am in Norway at the moment and it is even more eye-watering there......in fact 'extreme bordering on extortionate!'. There are 3 things to bear in mind together:
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Pretty much all german airlines require more than a basic command of the german language although basic german could be enough to just get in if you promise to speak it fluently within a month or so.
Taxation is indeed high with a max tax level of 45% if you earn more than 250.000€ a year, which you won't with CLH, 42% below that. But that is only half of the story since you need to pay a lot for social security and medical insurance so expect to lose around 58% of your income. Average state rate is 54% in germany which is the second highest worldwide (right behind Belgium), however since you earn way over the average wage you will pay a bit more.
Apart from that is Cityline a pretty good employer, especially for the kind of equipment they fly and there is a chance to join mainline Lufthansa later on. However if you can get into Cityline you can go directly into mainline at the moment, which is quite a bit better.
Taxation is indeed high with a max tax level of 45% if you earn more than 250.000€ a year, which you won't with CLH, 42% below that. But that is only half of the story since you need to pay a lot for social security and medical insurance so expect to lose around 58% of your income. Average state rate is 54% in germany which is the second highest worldwide (right behind Belgium), however since you earn way over the average wage you will pay a bit more.
Apart from that is Cityline a pretty good employer, especially for the kind of equipment they fly and there is a chance to join mainline Lufthansa later on. However if you can get into Cityline you can go directly into mainline at the moment, which is quite a bit better.
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Hi Ron, my stay in Germany is coming to an end, after 6 years here in Munich. Can recommend being based here. Have a look at Munich.de website (also try "Toytown" for the expat view).
The good things:
1. Slick transport to the airport (45 mins from City centre to MUC), cool integrated transport system (S-bahn, U-bahn, Tram, Bus all usable with the same ticket and many ticket options)
2. MUC is expanding rapidly - 3rd runway coming
3. Beautiful, clean (generally) and safe city with a large expat community
4. Great beer, food, football, skiing, culture, nightlife and shopping
The not so good:
1. Rents expensive
2. German tax and social security expensive
3. Fuel expensive (on a par with UK)
4. Munich city centre about to go "Green" with heavy restrictions on vehicles corresponding to emission levels - some will not be allowed into the centre at all
PM me if you would like any further info - by the way, I have no knowledge of schools or kid stuff.
The good things:
1. Slick transport to the airport (45 mins from City centre to MUC), cool integrated transport system (S-bahn, U-bahn, Tram, Bus all usable with the same ticket and many ticket options)
2. MUC is expanding rapidly - 3rd runway coming
3. Beautiful, clean (generally) and safe city with a large expat community
4. Great beer, food, football, skiing, culture, nightlife and shopping
The not so good:
1. Rents expensive
2. German tax and social security expensive
3. Fuel expensive (on a par with UK)
4. Munich city centre about to go "Green" with heavy restrictions on vehicles corresponding to emission levels - some will not be allowed into the centre at all
PM me if you would like any further info - by the way, I have no knowledge of schools or kid stuff.