Leisure shooting to cause CRB problems?
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Leisure shooting to cause CRB problems?
Hello,
I'm interested in taking up rifle shooting at a local club, and it mentioned on their site that they pass details of members onto the police. Was just wondering if this would have any serious problems when applying for a Disclosure certificate, i.e. for airside passes.
Cheers
Scoobs
I'm interested in taking up rifle shooting at a local club, and it mentioned on their site that they pass details of members onto the police. Was just wondering if this would have any serious problems when applying for a Disclosure certificate, i.e. for airside passes.
Cheers
Scoobs
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I hope to Christ they never pass on that I am into watching TV!
Or am a member of a library...
Scooby, sure, this a
ed up world, but how could there possibly be a connection? What on earth prompts you to even ask such a bizarre question?
Or am a member of a library...
Scooby, sure, this a
ed up world, but how could there possibly be a connection? What on earth prompts you to even ask such a bizarre question?
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I didn't reply when I first saw this because I thought I'm getting far too contentious in my old age and I should let someone offer some helpful answers. But I'm with the Captain on this.
There is no way that your leisure activities and enjoyment from a potentially dangerous but entirely legitimate passtime should affect anything to do with getting security clearance for airside work. Driving a car is potentially dangerous but entirely legal - and arguably more dangerous than rifle shooting in many respects - as are many other activities that we all enjoy in our spare time.
But unfortunately in this crazy world that we live in you can never be sure!
You could try asking the CRB but the problem is that I think many more checks are done behind the scenes and using who knows what databases.
The only suggestion that I can come up with is if you're working for an airline etc. maybe get them to make enquiries on your behalf.
There is no way that your leisure activities and enjoyment from a potentially dangerous but entirely legitimate passtime should affect anything to do with getting security clearance for airside work. Driving a car is potentially dangerous but entirely legal - and arguably more dangerous than rifle shooting in many respects - as are many other activities that we all enjoy in our spare time.
But unfortunately in this crazy world that we live in you can never be sure!
You could try asking the CRB but the problem is that I think many more checks are done behind the scenes and using who knows what databases.
The only suggestion that I can come up with is if you're working for an airline etc. maybe get them to make enquiries on your behalf.
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Wicked. Cheers guys. Thinking about it, I can't see that it would cause problems. Even if it is flagged up an a CRB check, so what? Like you say, its entirely legitimate, and nothing that would be connected with a criminal record.
Cheers
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Scooby
In the UK, if you hold either a Shotgun or Firearms Certificate, you are placed on the Police National Computer [PNC] even though you [may] have no 'form' at all- indeed if you have 'form' the chances of you getting a licence are somewhat slim. I found all this out recently, when I applied for, and was granted, a Firearms Cert for a .22 Rimfire
In regard to Gun Clubs the position is less clear.As I understand it, they have to 'grass you up' to the local Constabulary if you become a member.
Phone your local Police HQ Firearms Dept and ask them exactly what their policy is vis a vis members of gun clubs.If they are reluctant to disclose this then write in and ask .If they still won't, write in again [politely] citing the FOI and ask them to disclose their policy.
Regarding any problems going 'Air Side' etc regret I can't assist,
In the UK, if you hold either a Shotgun or Firearms Certificate, you are placed on the Police National Computer [PNC] even though you [may] have no 'form' at all- indeed if you have 'form' the chances of you getting a licence are somewhat slim. I found all this out recently, when I applied for, and was granted, a Firearms Cert for a .22 Rimfire
In regard to Gun Clubs the position is less clear.As I understand it, they have to 'grass you up' to the local Constabulary if you become a member.
Phone your local Police HQ Firearms Dept and ask them exactly what their policy is vis a vis members of gun clubs.If they are reluctant to disclose this then write in and ask .If they still won't, write in again [politely] citing the FOI and ask them to disclose their policy.
Regarding any problems going 'Air Side' etc regret I can't assist,
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I'm interested in taking up rifle shooting at a local club, and it mentioned on their site that they pass details of members onto the police. Was just wondering if this would have any serious problems when applying for a Disclosure certificate, i.e. for airside passes.
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Captain Scooby
A word of caution if I may.
A colleague fell foul of this when the CRB check was first introduced. He had forgotten to renew a shotgun licence and was prosecuted by an overzealous police force. This occured some time before and didn't (at the time) cause him a problem. When he applied for his CRB check the conviction was flagged up and he failed the check as "firearms" offences are not permissable for airside passes.
He lost his job..........
A word of caution if I may.
A colleague fell foul of this when the CRB check was first introduced. He had forgotten to renew a shotgun licence and was prosecuted by an overzealous police force. This occured some time before and didn't (at the time) cause him a problem. When he applied for his CRB check the conviction was flagged up and he failed the check as "firearms" offences are not permissable for airside passes.
He lost his job..........
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How can there be any connection between a leisure activity and Disclosure? There is none.
Disclosure only has to do with past form, nothing else. What leisure activities/clubs you belong to are nothing to do with them whatsoever. There was nowhere on my disclosure form to "admit" to being a shooter, or anything else that is non-subversive. No criminal past, no problem.
I rather fear this is yet another example of PC/H&S paranoia becoming so ingrained in our minds that we are allowing ourselves to invent all sorts of imaginary bans/restrictions where no such restriction exists in fact.
Its rather scary.
Disclosure only has to do with past form, nothing else. What leisure activities/clubs you belong to are nothing to do with them whatsoever. There was nowhere on my disclosure form to "admit" to being a shooter, or anything else that is non-subversive. No criminal past, no problem.
I rather fear this is yet another example of PC/H&S paranoia becoming so ingrained in our minds that we are allowing ourselves to invent all sorts of imaginary bans/restrictions where no such restriction exists in fact.
Its rather scary.
