Off Duty Staff Access To Flight Deck
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Plumbum Pendular
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Off Duty Staff Access To Flight Deck
What is your Company's policy to off duty staff traveling having access to the flight deck jumpseats?
For example one of your cabin crew is traveling standby on holiday but the flight is full. Are they allowed to sit on the jumpseat on the flightdeck?
For example one of your cabin crew is traveling standby on holiday but the flight is full. Are they allowed to sit on the jumpseat on the flightdeck?
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From: La Belle Province
I think Part 121 is going to prohibit that case:
Don't think a standby cabin crew is going to be in that list of exceptions...
§ 121.547 Admission to flight deck
(c) No person may admit any person to the flight deck unless there is a seat available for his use in the passenger compartment, except—
(1) An FAA air carrier inspector, a DOD commercial air carrier evaluator, or authorized representative of the Administrator or National Transportation Safety Board who is checking or observing flight operations;
(2) An air traffic controller who is authorized by the Administrator to observe ATC procedures;
(3) A certificated airman employed by the certificate holder whose duties require an airman certificate;
(4) A certificated airman employed by another part 119 certificate holder whose duties with that part 119 certificate holder require an airman certificate and who is authorized by the part 119 certificate holder operating the aircraft to make specific trips over a route;
(5) An employee of the part 119 certificate holder operating the aircraft whose duty is directly related to the conduct or planning of flight operations or the in-flight monitoring of aircraft equipment or operating procedures, if his presence on the flightdeck is necessary to perform his duties and he has been authorized in writing by a responsible supervisor, listed in the Operations Manual as having that authority; and
(6) A technical representative of the manufacturer of the aircraft or its components whose duties are directly related to the in-flight monitoring of aircraft equipment or operating procedures, if his presence on the flightdeck is necessary to perform his duties and he has been authorized in writing by the Administrator and by a responsible supervisor of the operations department of the part 119 certificate holder, listed in the Operations Manual as having that authority.
(c) No person may admit any person to the flight deck unless there is a seat available for his use in the passenger compartment, except—
(1) An FAA air carrier inspector, a DOD commercial air carrier evaluator, or authorized representative of the Administrator or National Transportation Safety Board who is checking or observing flight operations;
(2) An air traffic controller who is authorized by the Administrator to observe ATC procedures;
(3) A certificated airman employed by the certificate holder whose duties require an airman certificate;
(4) A certificated airman employed by another part 119 certificate holder whose duties with that part 119 certificate holder require an airman certificate and who is authorized by the part 119 certificate holder operating the aircraft to make specific trips over a route;
(5) An employee of the part 119 certificate holder operating the aircraft whose duty is directly related to the conduct or planning of flight operations or the in-flight monitoring of aircraft equipment or operating procedures, if his presence on the flightdeck is necessary to perform his duties and he has been authorized in writing by a responsible supervisor, listed in the Operations Manual as having that authority; and
(6) A technical representative of the manufacturer of the aircraft or its components whose duties are directly related to the in-flight monitoring of aircraft equipment or operating procedures, if his presence on the flightdeck is necessary to perform his duties and he has been authorized in writing by the Administrator and by a responsible supervisor of the operations department of the part 119 certificate holder, listed in the Operations Manual as having that authority.
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From: UK
CAA inspectors (inspecting), Trappers undertaking Line Checking (trapping), 'Cover' F/O's (covering)and company auditors ( auditing) are the only ones allowed on our flightdeck. The days of helping a company member get to destination are long gone. And as for those untrustworthy creatures called parents..........
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From: In my seat
Luckily, I take whoever I want on the cockpit jumpseat. All legal.
JAA B737 Operator, based in North-Western Europe.
I pitty the UK employed pilots, and am very happy to have left the "Island of Paranoïa."
JAA B737 Operator, based in North-Western Europe.
I pitty the UK employed pilots, and am very happy to have left the "Island of Paranoïa."
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From: In front of a computer
Amazingly this is allowed in BA. The rules state that flight or cabin crew (off duty) may occupy the flight deck jumpseat with the permission of the Captain. ID cards must be checked but uniforms are optional (I said uniforms not clothes 
) The crew members are not allowed to leave the flight deck unless for a toilet break and must be travelling "before or after" a duty. A nice and wide definition deliberately written to allow leeway.
As an example a fellow Captain sat with us on my last sector on his way er um "home"...................
) The crew members are not allowed to leave the flight deck unless for a toilet break and must be travelling "before or after" a duty. A nice and wide definition deliberately written to allow leeway.As an example a fellow Captain sat with us on my last sector on his way er um "home"...................
