Light STOL aircraft for cold and mountainous use
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Light STOL aircraft for cold and mountainous use
Hello Everyone,
I was wondering what aircraft pilots might recommend for an un-paved 600 meter strip, with the ability to carry at least 12 passenger or the freight equivilant. This field will often be ice covered.
Thanks Dannytoro
I was wondering what aircraft pilots might recommend for an un-paved 600 meter strip, with the ability to carry at least 12 passenger or the freight equivilant. This field will often be ice covered.
Thanks Dannytoro
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Maybe a Twotter???
They fly multiple services a day to Saba, around 400 meters long, but with displaced thresholds.
Admitedly it's paved and in a warm climate. But the Twotter is Canadian and surely knows about cold. They come with skis and floats as well.
They fly multiple services a day to Saba, around 400 meters long, but with displaced thresholds.
Admitedly it's paved and in a warm climate. But the Twotter is Canadian and surely knows about cold. They come with skis and floats as well.
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Twotter
...Holy Cow! Whar's the island that goes with that runway! OMG! That flight must come with a warning for the cardiac impaired. I've got Twin Otters on my list, but they are on the pricey end of the list......
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The island is Saba in the Netherlands Antilles. It is served by Winair (Windward Islands Airways) from St Maarten. Needless to say its pilots don't go to Saba without check rides.
Winair's stage lengths are very short - 15 minutes or so. A couple of years ago they retired a Twotter that had flown well over 100,000 cycles (IIRC).
The Twotter may be expensive because of its abilities and two engines. You seldom get more than you pay for in products.
Winair also has some Islanders, which are smaller than your request. Maybe the Trislander would satisfy you, but I don't know much about this sort of thing.
Winair's stage lengths are very short - 15 minutes or so. A couple of years ago they retired a Twotter that had flown well over 100,000 cycles (IIRC).
The Twotter may be expensive because of its abilities and two engines. You seldom get more than you pay for in products.
Winair also has some Islanders, which are smaller than your request. Maybe the Trislander would satisfy you, but I don't know much about this sort of thing.
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Trislander
...Well that's a good one I had not thought of. So far I've found the LET L420 , the Harbin Y-12IV , and the rare to find Panda Air Corp Twin Panda. The twin panda is really interesting in that it's a canadian upgraded Y-12IV with uprated PT-6-34 engines and a full western avionics fit thoughout. It was specfically built to replace the dwindling but white hot Twin Otter fleet......But Thanks for the idea of the Islander and Trislander Seacue..I'll have a good look at them too....
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More ideas!
Thanks for the continuing input. I intend to evaluate all of them. Never heard of a "Twin Pin" What is the builder of it? I looked over the Anotov site, and even for the increased power AN-3T they refit, they only list 9 passengers. You can imagine what the insurance and flight certification people will say if you tell them your planning to operate over specs
. Nope, I've yet to check either Pilatus product, or the Shorts Skyvan. But I will now. Incidently, a Chinese military student questioned wheter I had a website or blog dedicated to the project, and I thought that would be a great Idea. That way I could get a better all around view of the subject. I'll post a link when I get that project going. BTW, it will encompass all forms of transport into the Labrador portion of Newfoundland. That is the central and primary salient point. Labrador is bereft in many, if not all forms of Transport. Even the "Labrador Highway" is mostly gravel. But if nothing else, it can serve as a useful platform and hopefully a springboard for many projects and ideas.
. Nope, I've yet to check either Pilatus product, or the Shorts Skyvan. But I will now. Incidently, a Chinese military student questioned wheter I had a website or blog dedicated to the project, and I thought that would be a great Idea. That way I could get a better all around view of the subject. I'll post a link when I get that project going. BTW, it will encompass all forms of transport into the Labrador portion of Newfoundland. That is the central and primary salient point. Labrador is bereft in many, if not all forms of Transport. Even the "Labrador Highway" is mostly gravel. But if nothing else, it can serve as a useful platform and hopefully a springboard for many projects and ideas.
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that surprises me - i've never seen a 750 use 2000ft on a landing roll! 200ft more like it. and twice the landing roll than the take-off roll? just thinking about it - at 65kts touchdown and with full reverse i would have thought 300m/1000ft would be more realistic. they can park on a dime.
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The 'Twin Pin' is the Scottish Aviation 'Twin Pioneer'. As I recall it was designed & built in the '50's as a STOL military plane for parachute troops.
It's a fixed gear tailwheel, triple fin twin using two radial engines. Holds up to about 18 pax. Not the fastest a/c in the sky.
It's a fixed gear tailwheel, triple fin twin using two radial engines. Holds up to about 18 pax. Not the fastest a/c in the sky.
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Of the 91 Twin Pioneer aircraft built, 35 ended as a "hull loss".
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...e.php?type=430
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...e.php?type=430