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Old 3rd Jan 2007, 16:20
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Here we are not allowed to fly privately, on a weekend with our family, on a cessna 172... as our a§§ completely belongs to them...
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Many companies have restrictions on the number of officers who may travel on one flight, a greater number of higher level managers, a yet-greater number of peons, etc.

My employer had such a rule, however there was no similar restriction regarding busses, watercraft, etc. - and we were in the aviation business!

Go figure...
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What's it got to do with them? What you do in your private life is none of their business!
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It's all excused, is it not, by the totalisation of annual hours flown?
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In many company’s you may not fly privately at the time of employment, with some airlines you have to apply for it. It has to do with hours.
If one would instruct or do para dropping, you then eat up the hours the airline can use you for.
But then again, there are ways around that aslwell
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my company told us to not fly to many hours in case we overshoot the minimum of 1000h/year.
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The problem with the, 'ways around that', may lie in the manner in which extracurricular flying might affect one's employer's insurance liability?
Furthermore, once engaged in such extraneous flying and discovered so to be doing, the pilot might be viewed by his employer as being in breach of contract. Were this to be the case then presumably the employer might be justified in terminating such employment on the grounds that the conditions under which it had been offered had been breached?
It's doubtful that there is actually spite an malice afoot in a company restricting its pilots to fly only for itself.
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My non aviation company had no private flying restrictions. But I needed to clear the activity with the various insurers. The results were interesting:

Life cover - noted
Health (BUPA) cover - noted
Accident cover - demanded an extra GBP450 per annum over the usual annual premium of GBP80
Travel policy - covered only if flying on scheduled services

So presumably the actuaries have calculated that private pilots are unlikely to die through their flying activities, but will be injured in an accident....
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More likely than not, such injuries sustained whilst driving home from the dissection bar at Hangar 5/6/or 7, after the completion of a very fine day's aviation?
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Not a problem for us, no limit if the a/c is under 1650kg, if over or for hire and reward (instructing etc) you need a letter of authorisation from the Chief Pilot as there are duty hour and insurance issues.
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
What's it got to do with them? What you do in your private life is none of their business!
It's not uncommon in other industries. A company I once worked for tried to get the staff contract of employment changed. In the draft we were sent was a clause stating that anything we invented _on our own time_ belonged to the company. We were also obliged to help them protect the said invention by helping them secure patents on it in the company name etc etc. The laughing could be heard all round the building.
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"What's it got to do with them? What you do in your private life is none of their business"!

Well, that's a pretty interesting theory. My last company had a guy picked up (by the CAA of all people) moonlighting for another company which was quite in conflict with the contract that he had signed.

His feet did not even touch the ground on the way out!
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Moonlighting yes, but the original post was concerning private flying.

As far as I'm concerned my private flying hours do not impact on my annual total allowed of 900hrs commercial flying. And I know of many others who feel the same.
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Originally Posted by BEASTPLOTINTHEWORD
Here we are not allowed to fly privately, on a weekend with our family, on a cessna 172... as our a§§ completely belongs to them...
I'm sure they also prohibit motorcycles, skiing, horseback riding, ...
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