TCAS Alert today (26-6-6)
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Thanks for the replys. The situation I heard had the two aircraft around FL160. Not sure if one or both were descending/climbing at the time of the call.
AlanM - Interesting that you say you have at least one a week in your sector. Scary really for us guys without TCAS. Just what I was thinking as we were sat IMC at FL190 knowing we will not get the warning if it happened to us
AlanM - Interesting that you say you have at least one a week in your sector. Scary really for us guys without TCAS. Just what I was thinking as we were sat IMC at FL190 knowing we will not get the warning if it happened to us
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what would be the reason to not request TCAS on planes <5.7 T or <19 pax?
No danger to airliners?
...I doubt that..
In my area of operation,except aerobatic planes,all planes I've flown or I know about have TCAS installed on them,if flown in controlled airspace. They usually select A2000 ,if flying VFR ,if my memory doesn't play tricks on me.
No danger to airliners?
...I doubt that..In my area of operation,except aerobatic planes,all planes I've flown or I know about have TCAS installed on them,if flown in controlled airspace. They usually select A2000 ,if flying VFR ,if my memory doesn't play tricks on me.
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TCAS is quite expensive and i doubt that small GA aircraft have it, a transponder however is normally required in controlled airspace and that is quite enough to generate warnings in aircraft that are TCAS equipped (please use mode c/s though).
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From: Wandering the FIR and cyberspace often at highly unsociable times
Originally Posted by alexban
what would be the reason to not request TCAS on planes <5.7 T or <19 pax?
No danger to airliners? ...I doubt that..
In my area of operation,except aerobatic planes,all planes I've flown or I know about have TCAS installed on them,if flown in controlled airspace. They usually select A2000 ,if flying VFR ,if my memory doesn't play tricks on me.
No danger to airliners?
...I doubt that..In my area of operation,except aerobatic planes,all planes I've flown or I know about have TCAS installed on them,if flown in controlled airspace. They usually select A2000 ,if flying VFR ,if my memory doesn't play tricks on me.
TCAS detects the presence of transponder equipped aircraft by interrogating them.
BTW, in our job we sometimes get three or four TCAS advisories on a sector!
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A few months ago I was part of the tower team involved in the situation OP asked about. A VFR aircraft (with a clearance) took off from an area shielded from ATC radar. The clearance should have resulted in it being seperated from the final approach. When first observed on our radar display it popped up on final, going the other way, indicating a climb through 1000ft. There was a B737 on the ILS at 12 o'clock, 3nm, descending through about 1700ft. The surprised aerodrome controller reacted in what seemed like nanoseconds, and as the Boeing pilot acknowledged the climb/MAPP instruction she also reported "TCAS climb". I found that fairly reassuring from the viewpoint that it would have prevented a (likely) collision, had no climb instruction been issued.
My friends on area control tell me that TA's are fairly common, and RA's used to happen in the situation where an aircraft is about to level off with someone above/below coming the other way, probably because of the much higher closure rate. They seldom seem to happen near the aerodrome. Think I've seen about 1 or 2 a year, and only 1 total where there was an actual loss of seperation.
My friends on area control tell me that TA's are fairly common, and RA's used to happen in the situation where an aircraft is about to level off with someone above/below coming the other way, probably because of the much higher closure rate. They seldom seem to happen near the aerodrome. Think I've seen about 1 or 2 a year, and only 1 total where there was an actual loss of seperation.
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Originally Posted by alexban
what would be the reason to not request TCAS on planes <5.7 T or <19 pax?
what would be the reason to not request TCAS on planes <5.7 T or <19 pax?
Have you seen many Cessna Caravans, Piper Navajos or BN Islanders equipped with TCAS???
Originally Posted by alexban
No danger to airliners? ...I doubt that..
No danger to airliners? ...I doubt that..
Danger to airlines? Definitely! How many small aircraft operators would go bankrupt if TCAS was required on ALL commercial aircraft flying in controlled airspace??? How much does it cost to install TCAS on a 200,000 € piston twin???
