FAA ATP Written exam
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In a few weeks time I'm visiting the U.S. to do a CL604 type rating course with Flightsafety International. I am a JAA ATPL holder with over 3000 hours TT, 1700 jet, 1100 jet command. I have been advised that a good idea would be to put the type on my 15 year old American CPL/IR aswell but I would need to upgrade this licence to ATP first by simply passing an FAA class 1 medical and the FAA ATP written exam. Can anyone advise of any other requirements and the easiest way of doing the writtens in or near London. Best study material? What's the difference between Part 135 & Part 121?
Best study material? What's the difference between Part 135 & Part 121?
You will find the 135 test to be slightly less time consuming to study for due to the omission of 121 regs. Otherwise, it makes no difference which test you take. Either of them will serve equally to fulfill the prerequisite.
There are anumber of computer testing service providers which have FAA authorization to administer the tests. Here is the FAA list. (.PDF) I see there is one at Farnborough and one in Norwich. These are near the top of the page.
Let FSI know what you want to do well ahead of time. You may want to do this directly to the center you will train with without delay to forestall any "administrative" or "scheduling" difficulties.
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You can also log on to www.myairplane.com and check out the FAA ATP sample tests. Not the whole schpiel but gives you an idea what you are dealing with (should be a walk in the park compared to JAA equivalent...).
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Thanks Guys, for all the useful tips. I didn't realize, 2Donkeys, that I could put a specific jet type onto a FAA CPL/IR. I know that a N registered commercial jet co-pilot does not need a type-rating. My requirement, at the moment, is to put the CL604 onto my FAA CPL/IR at the same time as it goes onto my JAA ATPL. Then, presumably, if I'm offered a command position on an American registered CL604 in a few years time, I could take the FAA ATP writtens AT THAT TIME to qualify. I don't need my U.S licence at the moment and have very little time to prepare for the ATP exam.
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Topple,
Take the time to study the written, you can do it in the US while on type course and it can be studied in about 7 days. If you dont, and wish at a later stage to add your FAA ATPL you will have to do both the written and flight test, if you have the written passed when you do the CL604 Test at the end of your type course, it will automatically count as a ATP checkride.
The way F/S explained it to me, there is no co-pilot type rating, the difference is, that if you do not take the final checkride, you are qualified to act as Co-jo, but do not have a type rating, if you have a type, ie checkride passed, it is a P1 type.
Any comments if this is true?
Take the time to study the written, you can do it in the US while on type course and it can be studied in about 7 days. If you dont, and wish at a later stage to add your FAA ATPL you will have to do both the written and flight test, if you have the written passed when you do the CL604 Test at the end of your type course, it will automatically count as a ATP checkride.
The way F/S explained it to me, there is no co-pilot type rating, the difference is, that if you do not take the final checkride, you are qualified to act as Co-jo, but do not have a type rating, if you have a type, ie checkride passed, it is a P1 type.
Any comments if this is true?
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OK. So I DO need the FAA ATP written to put the type on my US licence. I already understand that the test at the end of the type training could count as an ATP checkride but was hoping to put that onto my FAA CPL/IR and do the written when & if required to fly P1 on a US registered CL604 sometime in the future. I don't actually need the FAA rating at the moment as I shall be flying UK registered A/C.
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Another wrinkle in the mix is that the FAA now do issue SIC ratings on specific aircraft, in conformity with ICAO, for those crews that fly overseas, and thereby require this endorsement.
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ATP Written Exam
There used to be an outfit many years ago called Bill Phelps Airline Ground School. They ran weekend ground schools for ATP and Flight Engineer.
Essentially, it was a one-weekend, cram course where they 'taught the test'. They gave you actual test questions and the 'correct' answer. Most people who took the course not only passed the FAA exam on the first attempt but scored a high grade. The school guaranteed successful results.
The ground schools were usually taught by retired/furloughed airline pilots who explained why the FAA's answer was correct. (Not always is the FAA's answer really the correct one...but, you have to pass the test, not make a political statement.)
The school would run many sessions throughout the U.S. (major cities) each weekend, so it was convenient to attend. I'm thinking you simply call or e-mail, give them your credit card, and show up at the right place and the right time.
You might look into this...to see if they're still around. Or, maybe there is someone else who runs a similar operation.
Regards...
Tom
Essentially, it was a one-weekend, cram course where they 'taught the test'. They gave you actual test questions and the 'correct' answer. Most people who took the course not only passed the FAA exam on the first attempt but scored a high grade. The school guaranteed successful results.
The ground schools were usually taught by retired/furloughed airline pilots who explained why the FAA's answer was correct. (Not always is the FAA's answer really the correct one...but, you have to pass the test, not make a political statement.)
The school would run many sessions throughout the U.S. (major cities) each weekend, so it was convenient to attend. I'm thinking you simply call or e-mail, give them your credit card, and show up at the right place and the right time.
You might look into this...to see if they're still around. Or, maybe there is someone else who runs a similar operation.
Regards...
Tom
