JAA conversion question
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JAA conversion question
Hi everybody, I have a question about the process of converting a FAA certificate to a JAA licence, ATPL
I am planing on taking the ground school here in the US with Naples Air. I believe they offer the course required to get the British JAA licence, which is recognized throughout entire Europe. However, since I have to fly 15 hours in European airspace, is that flying time to be flown in the UK, or can it be flown anywhere else within Europe. Let's say Germany, and if so, Could I take my "skill test" in germany.
If the answer is yes, what country would issue my licence?
I hope this is not too confusing, and I really appreciate anybody's input.
Fly high and fast.
I am planing on taking the ground school here in the US with Naples Air. I believe they offer the course required to get the British JAA licence, which is recognized throughout entire Europe. However, since I have to fly 15 hours in European airspace, is that flying time to be flown in the UK, or can it be flown anywhere else within Europe. Let's say Germany, and if so, Could I take my "skill test" in germany.
If the answer is yes, what country would issue my licence?
I hope this is not too confusing, and I really appreciate anybody's input.
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#1jetjockey,
Not even you as the #1jetjockey would be permitted to train in more than one JAA country towards a JAR-FCL license...
JAR-FCL states that all flight training towards a JAR CPL/IR has to be done in the same member state, e.g. UK or Germany. Therefore, you shall not complete your ATPLs with a British provider, e.g. Naples Air Center, but your flight training with a German FTO. However, if you obtain your licenses in the UK, but find work in another JAA country, which will become your country of residence, you may convert your license to one of this country's. Sounds complicated, huh?
I presume you are interested in conversion training. Bear in mind that, as far as I know only the UK CAA permits applicants to complete a training towards a JAR-FCL IR with reduced flying lessons, if you hold any ICAO IR already, i.e. a minimum of 15 hours, ten of which can be flown in a sim. However, having said that also bear in mind that some of the JAA member states shall not be obliged to accept any such license!
The German authorities are - surprise, surprise! - a bit more picky, as they require you to complete a full IR with a minimum of 55 hours flown, if you want the German CAA issue you with a German JAR-FCL CPL/IR.
If I was you I would go for the UK training, as I feel aviation in the UK is not as bureaucratic as it is in Germany. Plus, I assume you do not speak German so by training in the UK you would not have the language barrier either. The whole process is rather complicated and I suggest you study LASOR (just do a search on Google!) before you make any decision. It may save you a few bucks!!!
Good luck!
Not even you as the #1jetjockey would be permitted to train in more than one JAA country towards a JAR-FCL license...
JAR-FCL states that all flight training towards a JAR CPL/IR has to be done in the same member state, e.g. UK or Germany. Therefore, you shall not complete your ATPLs with a British provider, e.g. Naples Air Center, but your flight training with a German FTO. However, if you obtain your licenses in the UK, but find work in another JAA country, which will become your country of residence, you may convert your license to one of this country's. Sounds complicated, huh?
I presume you are interested in conversion training. Bear in mind that, as far as I know only the UK CAA permits applicants to complete a training towards a JAR-FCL IR with reduced flying lessons, if you hold any ICAO IR already, i.e. a minimum of 15 hours, ten of which can be flown in a sim. However, having said that also bear in mind that some of the JAA member states shall not be obliged to accept any such license!
The German authorities are - surprise, surprise! - a bit more picky, as they require you to complete a full IR with a minimum of 55 hours flown, if you want the German CAA issue you with a German JAR-FCL CPL/IR.
If I was you I would go for the UK training, as I feel aviation in the UK is not as bureaucratic as it is in Germany. Plus, I assume you do not speak German so by training in the UK you would not have the language barrier either. The whole process is rather complicated and I suggest you study LASOR (just do a search on Google!) before you make any decision. It may save you a few bucks!!!
Good luck!
Last edited by stefair; 5th Mar 2006 at 18:04.
