Day/night in the logbook?
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Day/night in the logbook?
So, how does everyone do it?
In the professional arena, do you take the exact time of sunset +30 mins and differentiate it in the logbook, or do you just log the flight to what majority of the was flown in i.e. 75% of the flight in official night then log the whole as night and vice versa. It'll even out in the end won't it?
Further to that, where do you get the official sunset times from, is there a website that can calculate the times for individual days.
Sorry to be so naive!
In the professional arena, do you take the exact time of sunset +30 mins and differentiate it in the logbook, or do you just log the flight to what majority of the was flown in i.e. 75% of the flight in official night then log the whole as night and vice versa. It'll even out in the end won't it?
Further to that, where do you get the official sunset times from, is there a website that can calculate the times for individual days.
Sorry to be so naive!
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Absolutely no sarcasm in this response.
I log Day flying when it's day (including twilight of course), and night when it's obviously night.
It aint rocket science
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Old Smokey
I log Day flying when it's day (including twilight of course), and night when it's obviously night.
It aint rocket science
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Old Smokey
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Snigs
As Old Smokey says - log night when it's dark and day when it's not!
In practical terms, say a 2h15 flight and it gets dark before landing - then I would call it 15 or 30 minutes night flying - to make the logbook additions easier mainly.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter, does it - once you have your licence CPL or ATPL, it's not as if you are going to be denied a position because of a lack of night hours, is it?
As Old Smokey says - log night when it's dark and day when it's not!
In practical terms, say a 2h15 flight and it gets dark before landing - then I would call it 15 or 30 minutes night flying - to make the logbook additions easier mainly.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter, does it - once you have your licence CPL or ATPL, it's not as if you are going to be denied a position because of a lack of night hours, is it?
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Well, that was what I thought (needless to say that I still have a frozen ATPL), but I asked a training Captain about it and he pooh poohed that as being too picky. He said that once I'd gone through a winters flying I wouldn't be bothered about flying to the minute, he just logged flights that started in daylight as day, and night-time as night.
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Very good question I'd say. As I only fly in the UK I use the sunset/sunrise tables in the AIP and add 30 mins to relevant airport's sunset time then divide the flight accordingly (rounded to 5 mins).
I don't have to do this as I have the green book but do so anyway, but then I am the type of chap who has a radio controlled watch, knows the difference between a Mk XIV and XVIII Spitfire and has been called an anorak in the past so be aware you are entering dangerous territory
I don't have to do this as I have the green book but do so anyway, but then I am the type of chap who has a radio controlled watch, knows the difference between a Mk XIV and XVIII Spitfire and has been called an anorak in the past so be aware you are entering dangerous territory
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A couple of computer log book programs will work it out for you, including according to your position. The Jeppesen (?) one does and I think the newer skylogpro does it too.
Personally I just take a very rough guess.
Personally I just take a very rough guess.
"A couple of computer log book programs will work it out for you, including according to your position. The Jeppesen (?) one does and I think the newer skylogpro does it too."
Ah, but do they take your altitude into account too?
Ah, but do they take your altitude into account too?
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Hi Snigs,
As your TC says, just start the aircraft clock when you release the brakes, log the time as day flying till it goes dark then log the rest as night.
You will soon fill up the night columns in your log book once the clocks go back!
As your TC says, just start the aircraft clock when you release the brakes, log the time as day flying till it goes dark then log the rest as night.
You will soon fill up the night columns in your log book once the clocks go back!
