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Joined: Jul 2004
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From: Sydney NSW
Gawd No!
Don't start 411A off again, please!
Try google, type L-1011, TriStar, anything and 40,000 replies will appear including 2,000 people who will swear before God they flew it from the right hand seat for 17,000+ hours and... then from the left hand seat for another 30,000.
D'ye know, one third of them might be right. But your aircraft is such a fetish you need to love your search engine more.
Personally I liked the xxxx better,
Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only joking 411A and to all those in Two-Sixteen try a little VC "Ten"derness
Incoming Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Try google, type L-1011, TriStar, anything and 40,000 replies will appear including 2,000 people who will swear before God they flew it from the right hand seat for 17,000+ hours and... then from the left hand seat for another 30,000.
D'ye know, one third of them might be right. But your aircraft is such a fetish you need to love your search engine more.
Personally I liked the xxxx better,
Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only joking 411A and to all those in Two-Sixteen try a little VC "Ten"derness
Incoming Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 8,571
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From: Arizona USA
Well, enicalyth, I just passed 12,000 hours in Command on the 'ole three engine Lockheed, and from where I sit in the LH seat, it sure works for me.
Far too old to change now.
Now I thought that I was one of the high time guys, but personally know of a few with over 15,000 hours in type.
The SV birds have been bought, with the intension of flying a few in scheduled/charter ops, so I guess there is indeed life left in Lockheed land.
Maybe some new blood on the horizon will keep it going just a bit longer than anticipated.
Far too old to change now.
Now I thought that I was one of the high time guys, but personally know of a few with over 15,000 hours in type.
The SV birds have been bought, with the intension of flying a few in scheduled/charter ops, so I guess there is indeed life left in Lockheed land.
Maybe some new blood on the horizon will keep it going just a bit longer than anticipated.
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 545
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From: Dunstable, Beds UK
411,
I dont know you had bought the SV tristars, when did that happen
That must the the fith time they have been sold in as many years !!
I wonder how you are going to get them out of Taif without engines
I dont know you had bought the SV tristars, when did that happen
That must the the fith time they have been sold in as many years !!
I wonder how you are going to get them out of Taif without engines
Joined: Sep 2004
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From: Down at the sharp pointy end, where all the weather is made.
Why does this aircraft attract such a following? I've never flown in one (still got a chance to rectify that situation!) but I have a fondness for it that I can't justify.
I first encountered it when I was a humble plane guard in the 1970's. BA used to run their afternoon LHR- BFS service with one and in the winter the APU exhaust was angled down just nicely to keep me warm as toast. It was probably a terrible place to stand from a Health & Safety point of view. Later having moved up the ladder a bit I marvelled at their versatility landing on a runway we'd only been partly successful in clearing of ice.
ATC 'Speedbirdxxx how did you find the braking action?'
Speedbirdxxx, vacating at block 17 from 10L 'Don't know, you said it was slippery, so we didn't use the brakes, just the reverse thrust!!'
Nowadays, the only ones we see at LGW are the Portugese machines, digging BA out of the fertiliser. Rather tired-looking examples but still plodding away.
And don't forget what the Ghost of flight 401 has to say...
Repo appeared to a captain to tell him, "There will never be another crash. We will not let it happen".
Cheers,
The Odd One
I first encountered it when I was a humble plane guard in the 1970's. BA used to run their afternoon LHR- BFS service with one and in the winter the APU exhaust was angled down just nicely to keep me warm as toast. It was probably a terrible place to stand from a Health & Safety point of view. Later having moved up the ladder a bit I marvelled at their versatility landing on a runway we'd only been partly successful in clearing of ice.
ATC 'Speedbirdxxx how did you find the braking action?'
Speedbirdxxx, vacating at block 17 from 10L 'Don't know, you said it was slippery, so we didn't use the brakes, just the reverse thrust!!'
Nowadays, the only ones we see at LGW are the Portugese machines, digging BA out of the fertiliser. Rather tired-looking examples but still plodding away.
And don't forget what the Ghost of flight 401 has to say...
Repo appeared to a captain to tell him, "There will never be another crash. We will not let it happen".
Cheers,
The Odd One
Joined: Jan 2003
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From: USA
Not a lot of hours on the Saudia Tristars but many cycles as they were used for mostly domestic flights.
Same as the 747 classic is being used now in KSA.
Have over 3,000 hours on them myself.
Jed-Med-Jed-Med etc.
When I was flying them here we only had 2 international routes. Jed-Fra and Jed-CDG.
I am also told that none of them have the rear spar mods that is required for them to continue flying.
Not sure how much this cost but am told its very expensive.
In some cases more than the aircrafts value without engines.
Maybe some one in the engineering feild can comment further.
Was a great aircraft though.
Same as the 747 classic is being used now in KSA.
Have over 3,000 hours on them myself.
Jed-Med-Jed-Med etc.
When I was flying them here we only had 2 international routes. Jed-Fra and Jed-CDG.
I am also told that none of them have the rear spar mods that is required for them to continue flying.
Not sure how much this cost but am told its very expensive.
In some cases more than the aircrafts value without engines.
Maybe some one in the engineering feild can comment further.
Was a great aircraft though.
Joined: Nov 2000
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From: Home
Sure if the aircraft have been sold to the likes of the middle east operators using them now May be the spar mods will be overlooked and the aircraft will continue to fly. 
Never know 411A might end up with another 12000hrs on them
Never know 411A might end up with another 12000hrs on them
Joined: Jul 2004
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From: Sydney NSW
Bless you 411A
G'day 411A
I knew you'd rise. Just as sure as you knew you couldn't resist.
I hafta give you it, a good piece and well engineered. When you say it works for you, you say it with a deeply felt love and I like that.
Fair to say I follow your posts, won't agree with all of them but I'd sure chew the fat with you. My generation, my nationality we flew Boeing mainly and they're serviceable beasts. Only one came close to capturing my heart but I can never fall in love with an aircraft.
I used to go to England quite a lot and visit the RAF Museum at Hendon. The aircraft there were soulless except the biplanes and I always felt that if someone could just get that rotary to start, those girls would fly and mebbe, just mebbe, I could fly them. Dream on.
Geez if we could just be a less bitchy lot that'd do me. Sail on brother, the years stole up on me and the only girl I truly love is the one I married and she hates flying. So now I'm gonna sail my J40 and love her like a TriStar.
Being a St Helenian the only way I could ever get home until recently was via RAF TriStar as a pax and take ship. The folks passed away and my only home now is Oz so I will TriStar no more. Dad is buried in Benin and unbelievably I am not permitted to fly there!
Peace to your flying and for all the rest of you still struggling, don't shoot the messenger.
I knew you'd rise. Just as sure as you knew you couldn't resist.
I hafta give you it, a good piece and well engineered. When you say it works for you, you say it with a deeply felt love and I like that.
Fair to say I follow your posts, won't agree with all of them but I'd sure chew the fat with you. My generation, my nationality we flew Boeing mainly and they're serviceable beasts. Only one came close to capturing my heart but I can never fall in love with an aircraft.
I used to go to England quite a lot and visit the RAF Museum at Hendon. The aircraft there were soulless except the biplanes and I always felt that if someone could just get that rotary to start, those girls would fly and mebbe, just mebbe, I could fly them. Dream on.
Geez if we could just be a less bitchy lot that'd do me. Sail on brother, the years stole up on me and the only girl I truly love is the one I married and she hates flying. So now I'm gonna sail my J40 and love her like a TriStar.
Being a St Helenian the only way I could ever get home until recently was via RAF TriStar as a pax and take ship. The folks passed away and my only home now is Oz so I will TriStar no more. Dad is buried in Benin and unbelievably I am not permitted to fly there!
Peace to your flying and for all the rest of you still struggling, don't shoot the messenger.
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 8,571
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From: Arizona USA
No other -200's that I'm aware of, Old Cessna.
And besides, a quick survey of L10's parked in th desert will reveal many old tired machines, not fit for further use...unless big bags of cash are available.
And besides, a quick survey of L10's parked in th desert will reveal many old tired machines, not fit for further use...unless big bags of cash are available.
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 594
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From: New Zealand
Callout......the -200 has RB211-524 either B2's or B4's not sure on these birds.....and there are not as many of them about as has been mentioned they will need a lot of money spent on them to get them back in the air..........would be nice for someone and of course jobs as well for people..........me think I will retire gracefully!!!!!
Joined: Jan 2000
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From: ???
I think you'll find the rear spar mod was completed some time ago at GAMCO. If the buyer takes all the aircraft and parts out 2 or 3 it should be a going concern, unless heavy maintenance due!!
As Fergineer correctly comments, these aircraft are RB211-524 equipped.
As Fergineer correctly comments, these aircraft are RB211-524 equipped.
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 545
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From: Dunstable, Beds UK
The killer is AD 2003-14-21 
Overdue on the 524-B2 ( -200 - Saudi aircraft),
Due on the 22B ( all the -1 aircraft) next year
and the 524-B4 ( -500) the year after.
-200 is the only one with the B2 engine so very limited numbers.
Denzil - yes some of the spars were done in GAMCO but not all.
Overdue on the 524-B2 ( -200 - Saudi aircraft),
Due on the 22B ( all the -1 aircraft) next year
and the 524-B4 ( -500) the year after.
-200 is the only one with the B2 engine so very limited numbers.
Denzil - yes some of the spars were done in GAMCO but not all.