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Old 20th Jun 2005, 06:07
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too much traffic overhead

A question for those in the know!

Travelling from East Midlands to Cork yesterday afternoon (Sunday 20th June at approx 1845), we were all loaded when captain announced that we were sitting on stand for another 40 minutes as there was too much traffic overhead to take off. This was not to do with traffic at the airport but appeared to refer to traffic in the airways above. It was also mentioned that this was a kind of airborne rush hour!

Does this make any sense to anyone out there from the pointy-end? I would have thought that our skies weren't quite that clogged just yet, even allowing for having to cross the busy London-Dublin route.
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It makes a lot of sense to air traffic controllers! Airspace can literally become full and a constant flow of traffic will keep it topped up so those wishing to join just have to wait. It's like a motorway at rush hour - you sometimes have to queue on slip roads to join and in some places there are traffic lights allowing only a few cars at a time.. It's the same with airspace.... if it becomes too crowded some flights will be delayed.

Another reason would be bad weather when aircraft may wish to divert away from their usual routes, causing extra work for ATC. In these cases ATC can impose delays to prevent dangerous situations from occurring..

That's in very simple terms..

PS.. Check "Manchester Controllers" in the ATC Forum - that's your answer, bad weather!
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I was told that NAS or the Swanwick link to it had failed, but there seems to be no mention of it anywhere else on the forums...
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I was told that NAS or the Swanwick link to it had failed, but there seems to be no mention of it anywhere else on the forums...
There was no problem with NAS or the Swanwick link yesterday. It was a Swanwick systems problem that affected the touchscreen telephone panels. So no combining or splitting of sectors available.

Bring back the clunky push button panels!

Somehow Brest had managed to get the wrong end of the stick too. They were telling pilots that we had no radar!
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i believe it was as a result of the super bad weather we experienced up north.

as a result there were no/few departures for about 30 mins+ and all the aircraft in the sky didnt want to come down....

as such this produces a knock on effect when all the aircraft that are queuing up on the threshold all want to get into the air at once...

hope i havent dumbed it down too much....none intended.

was a fantastic storm we had here @ egcc.

planes everywhere.....not wantin to budge.
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