Avg. PAX Weights
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Further to Fred's post, above, Australia's John K raised a very detailed report on this subject some years ago. The report makes for very interesting reading and eventually was embodied in current operational requirements.
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Don't forget that JAR-OPS places a requirement on the check-in, loading, operations and cabin staff to report any flight where they believe the weight of the passengers, including hand-luggage is significantly heavier than the standard weights.
So I guess if you realise 150 members of the "McDonalds Fan Club" board the aircraft for their annual away day feast in Frankfurt, one should wonder if the standard weights should be scrapped and actual weights used instead!!
So I guess if you realise 150 members of the "McDonalds Fan Club" board the aircraft for their annual away day feast in Frankfurt, one should wonder if the standard weights should be scrapped and actual weights used instead!!
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Splitter,
not only JAR-OPS. You'll find writing to that effect in most regulations. It is also interesting to note that the staff is typically required to estimate the truthfullness of the weights volunteered by pax and add up to a reasonably true figure where required.
"Yeah, I'll lie about my weight even if it is possibly detrimental the safety of the flight..."
not only JAR-OPS. You'll find writing to that effect in most regulations. It is also interesting to note that the staff is typically required to estimate the truthfullness of the weights volunteered by pax and add up to a reasonably true figure where required.
"Yeah, I'll lie about my weight even if it is possibly detrimental the safety of the flight..."
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ft,
FACT - In my previous airline when it was necessary to use passenger "self declared" weights, it was company policy to accept male passengers weights as factual, and add 10% to a female passenger's self-declared weight.
mutt,
What standard passenger weight do you use for Hajj flights out of Hat Yai? Seen some pretty interesting all-engines screen heights there.
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Old Smokey
FACT - In my previous airline when it was necessary to use passenger "self declared" weights, it was company policy to accept male passengers weights as factual, and add 10% to a female passenger's self-declared weight.
mutt,
What standard passenger weight do you use for Hajj flights out of Hat Yai? Seen some pretty interesting all-engines screen heights there.
Regards,
Old Smokey
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FACT - In my previous airline when it was necessary to use passenger "self declared" weights, it was company policy to accept male passengers weights as factual, and add 10% to a female passenger's self-declared weight.
Thats made me chuckle....still I can see the sense in it!
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Maude C,
you sure that Ezy child isn't 35?
Regular JAA weights are Adult 84, or split male/female 88/70, unless otherwise approved by local CAA for scheduled flights. Charter adults 76. Children on charter/scheduled are 35. Infants 0(!). Weights only subject for flights on ac with more than 19 seats.
Weights include handbags (5kg), umbrella or camera, overclothes and sufficient reading materials for the flight as far as i remember. Bear in mind that these rulse were written in the roaring thirties.....
JAA bag weights: Domestic 11kg, international 13kg, transcontinental 15kg, unless otherwise approved by local CAA.
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you sure that Ezy child isn't 35?
Regular JAA weights are Adult 84, or split male/female 88/70, unless otherwise approved by local CAA for scheduled flights. Charter adults 76. Children on charter/scheduled are 35. Infants 0(!). Weights only subject for flights on ac with more than 19 seats.
Weights include handbags (5kg), umbrella or camera, overclothes and sufficient reading materials for the flight as far as i remember. Bear in mind that these rulse were written in the roaring thirties.....
JAA bag weights: Domestic 11kg, international 13kg, transcontinental 15kg, unless otherwise approved by local CAA.
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You may be right. It's very unusual for us to have to LMC any children on or off, so the weight isn't one that has stuck. Perhaps I need to check. 
Adult weights are definitely correct though.
Adult weights are definitely correct though.
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How heavy?
M=88, F=70, C=35, I=0. Bags 14.5kgs (or 15kgs if the agent's loading system can't handle decimals) OR actual weight. Flight Deck 85 Kgs, Cabin Crew 75 Kgs. The system requires that you measure with a micrometer, mark out with chalk and chop with an axe.
