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Old 16th Sep 2004, 15:15
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Using the BAe146-200 every day on flights to scs (shettland's). There is only NDB or visual approach with 4 degree PAPI! Runway is only 1360 x 31m with displaced threshold by 150m. And yes there is as well a slope of 1.3%. better check your performance before....

The nearest alternates are Sumburgh & Kirkwall with runways of 1090m and 1050m. Can be a bit of a challange if you take the wind and weather into account! But its very good fun on nice days....
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Old 16th Sep 2004, 15:43
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I regularly used to land the C130 on grass strips of less than 2000ft (600m) - and take off again! And we didn't need the 40kts wind-over-deck that the C130 on Forrestal did
Was the grass pitching by 8'-10' though?
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Remember seeing TV coverage of Comet being delivered into Strathallan - a grass strip. Lost one of the main legs as it hit a very small lip just on the threshold - good effort though
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Roastbeef - as a regular pax abz/scs have to agree. Some of the landings at scs are quite 'spirited' - especially with seemingly faster approach in decent crosswinds. Astonishing braking performance usually leaves plenty runway though. Taking off into the usual 30kt headwind makes for a short take off and impressive climb as well.

p.s on the 509 tomorrow - usual SW gale forecast
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Old 16th Sep 2004, 19:30
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And to think the ATP's used to struggle with more than 40 on board.... Take-offs from Scatsta now the closest thing to a shuttle launch (with 100 on board )
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Seen a 757 leave Southampton (so presumably it landed there first which must have been a squeeze). Took less of the runway to leave the ground than the DO328 that left after it.

Air Transat used to operate a Tristar into Exeter of all places and left via Birmingham for Toronto I think.

Also, concorde has visited Exeter before now.

Tristars regularly go in and out of Cambridge for maintenence but not sure of the dimensions of the runway there. Can't imagine them being of NASA shuttle landing strip proportions though...
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Old 16th Sep 2004, 22:35
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FDX at John Wayne Airport

How about the Fedex A310 that operates into SNA (5700 ft.)? Only widebody I've ever seen there.
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Old 17th Sep 2004, 22:35
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Tarnished,

I saw that Comet at Strathallen when the museum was still there, and I would have loved to have seen that landing.

I did see at the time, but don't know if they are available now, some photos of a Nimrod on finals for the flight deck of the old Ark Royal. It was apparently an impromptu request from the Nimrod when he spotted the Ark in the western approaches. The Ark's controller didn't bat an eyelid and said "come on down". Fortunately the navy got some good pics. The pilot was invited to see his CO a couple of days later with the pics lying on his boss's desk. Comment? "Good show!"

Somehow, can't see it happening today, but would like to be told I'm wrong.

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Old 19th Sep 2004, 01:49
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Read Pissed Again,

Agreed, unlikely to see such "bravado" "high spirits" or "enthusiasm" in this day and age.

The fun police are everywhere. There are fewer and fewer times and places where "whacky" flying can be seen.

The Comet into Strathallan would probably be impossible today - the laws of aerodynamics and friction have surprisingly not changed but everyone in the command chain has added in their bit of a fudge factor - for the sake of safety of course, which means it now can't be done!! Amazing, that's called progress.

I also remember at or about the same time a Red Arrows display at Strathallan while they still had Gnats. After the full display the commentator said that as they were operating out of Leuchars which was very close they had some spare fuel which in turn meant they were going to finish with a thing he called the Rocket. This basically involved them all whooshing past in extended trail and about 5 -10 feet (ok 20 feet) and departing the scene of the crime in the vertical. V impressive - got a 35mm slide somewhere, stored in UK I'm sorry to say.

Who says nostalgia is not what it once was......

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http://www.airandspacemagazine.com/A...QT/HercOn.html

slightly better video clip of a previous post

Sound track says the first office was Lt Cdr W Stovol (STOVL?!?!)
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Old 19th Sep 2004, 02:06
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B 747 @ Longreach in queensland Australia,delivered there about 18 months ago I think for the Qantas Museum,It will not leave without about another 800m of runway.
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Lasham! - Biggest I ever flew there was a B737-200 but Dan Air flew in bigger stuff I believe, like Comets!
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Old 19th Sep 2004, 10:22
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Air Atlanta operated a B747-200 into Funchal, Madiera in 2002 which i think was before the runway was extended.

That must have been hairy!
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Old 19th Sep 2004, 10:41
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Blue Eagle, I think Lasham has welcomed numerous DC-8s and 727s aswell.
If I'm not mistaken, (and don't laugh!) there has been a DAS DC-10 in there too. Empty I presume!
Must have been pretty hairy, especially with a few gliders stuck to the windscreen...
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Didn't the B-52 (and Concorde for that matter) fly into Duxford?

Speaking of C-130's there is usually one at the Shoreham airshow.

Tristar at Jersey.

B747-200 and SP at Bournemouth.

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Old 20th Sep 2004, 07:14
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Didn't Concorde for that matter fly into Duxford?
Concorde flew into Duxford in August 1977. It had to go in before September as Duxford lost a significant length of rw to the M11, which is on the East end, in a slight cutting.

I was doing my flying scholarship at Luton, and at least one of my coursemates wangled a lesson to co-incide with the arrival.
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Old 20th Sep 2004, 12:17
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Blue Eagle,

Dan Air also of course delivered a Comet to Doug Arnold at Blackbushe. Unfortunately it left in skips many years later (remember witnessing it being cut up ).

Only yesterday morning, saw (from a distance) a 75' launch rather ballistically from Lasham.
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Old 21st Sep 2004, 11:32
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A tristar into Southend in 1998 I believe which must have been an imposing sight.
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Old 21st Sep 2004, 11:41
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Does anyone know how long Skiathos in Greece is, we regularly do that on a 757 and it seems rather tight. Just wandered how the length compares to some of the fields already mentioned.
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Old 21st Sep 2004, 11:49
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...another one I thought of from a pax perspective was a LTN-LCA I did one warm August evening on a Cally L1011 (mid 90's).

Pax load was very nearly 400 from what I recall of conversations with the CC.

We certainly seemed to use most of the available tarmac - I've often wondered what the view from the flightdeck was like as we approached the "cliff" at the 08 end
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Old 21st Sep 2004, 12:08
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How about an Il76 and AN12 into Southampton
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