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Old 10th Sep 2003, 02:11
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My Travel to LAS, refuel?

A friend is flying with My Travel MAN-LAS return on a A330, do you know if it has to refuel or do they fly non-stop?
If temperatures come into the equation, the flight is late October.
I was going to wind him up and tell him when he is on the ground in Bangor, Maine to look up and see the VS flying over.
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Non Stop - Always
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Todays MYT033 (10:00 local MAN departure) is filed for a 9 hour 52 minute non-stop flight.

Well within A330-200 range, it can also do SFO/LAX with a full load if required.
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Plog time for todays LAS is 10 hours 3 minutes. Destination alternate is KLAX. Ramp fuel was 68.7 tonnes and the predicted burn 50.9. TOW was 226714 (MAX is 230000).

Never known the LAS to tech stop, not even if the DC10-30 is used.

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Many thanks for that info guys, have you heard of any restrictions on weight when leaving LAS in the summer?
I believe that the VS 747 has some weight limitations for the return flight in summer due to the hot and high factor.
Rgds
ps.I'm off on a MyTravel cruise on 22nd, after the SLF eating all that food the Seawing may be overweight by the final night of the cruise.
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Every time I've been there in the 330, we've been OK - usually you have to use 07L for departure to get the weight on though if it's hot. Usually means a tailwind and a lengthy wait at the holding point as it is usually against the prevailing traffic flow. Usuing the other end - 25R - is a non-starter thanks to the huge wall of rock not far off the end of it! Came out a few weeks ago - OAT was +39C - no probs.

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I think it's more due to the fact that there's a pronounced uphill gradient on 25R rather than the terrain.
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There used to be occasional problems with the VS 747-200 schedules out of LAS in the summer, but only, if I remember rightly, if a P&W-engined version was rostered. The RR -200s and the current -400s had/have no problems. An A330 (or any other large twin) should never have a problem out of LAS, and the distance is comfortably inside a 330-200's range.
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From Airbus:-

The A330-300, which first entered service in early 1994, typically seats 335 passengers in two classes or 295 passengers in three classes and can fly up to 5,600 nm/10,400 km. It was joined in 1998 by the A330-200, which offers long range capability of up to 6,650 nm/12,300 km with ETOPS capability on the routes for which it was designed and seats 253 passengers in three classes.
MAN-LAS is 5290 nm so either -200 or -300 have the legs to do the trip non-stop.
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Once again, thank you for the very useful information on this subject.
SLT
On departure from LAS make sure you keep clear of the area where I am 'from'
ps: On a rest day in LAS hire out a motor and take a drive up highway 93 and 375 and have a spot of lunch at the Alien Inn
Nice day out.
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