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Old 29th Aug 2003, 23:47
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The Smell Of Kerosene In The Cabin?

Hi everyone, I've just come back from my hols. to Majorca on a 757-204 (BY 530A/B). On both ways I sat right on row 41 which is right at the back and I noticed that when the engines were being started, there was a very strong smell of kerosene in the cabin. The smell quickly diminsihed once the startup was complete and I was wondering what causes this smell with the doors closed.

I was wondering if anyone could also tell me weather airband receivers are allowed to be used on flights?

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Hi,

Easy226, its got something to do with fuel from outside the aircraft and the air conditioning.
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Could be a number of possibilities....

a) Some fumes from one of the engines (after start) were "inhaled" by the air conditioning system

b) The APU when shut down sometimes leaves a slight smell as you described, into the air con system

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c) you could have been right behind another aircraft with its engines running and it's fumes were "inhaled" by your aircraft's air cion system.

All perfectly normal, and quite a regular occurrence.

Nothing to be worried about !
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Hi,

All perfectly normal, and quite a regular occurrence.
On almost every flight I have been on there has been smell of kerosene in the cabin after engine start.

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No you can't use airband receivers !

The airconditioning system after engine start uses compressed "bleed"air from each engine. This is clean air drawn into the engine but inevitably during start there is often a smell of kerosene in the vicinity of the aircraft which is often drawn into the aircraft for a short spell. It can also occur when taxing behind or holding behind another aircraft.
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i remember going on a twin otter in nepal, one of the passengers had a kerosene pressure lantern sitting on his lap for the flight(wasnt turned on ofcourse) but it did leak.
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I love the smell of napalm in the morning
Oh sorry, wrong thread!
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Cool

Of course being an RB211 it just could be cracked/broken bleed struts at the back of the HPC. .
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It is a common phenomenon on newer RB211 535E4 engines. I think it is to do with phase 2 combustion chambers in the engine that do not allow any unburnt fuel to drain away, but collect in a tank. How this now causes a smell in the cabin after start I don't know.
Ask on the Tech Log site, there is bound to be a clever clogs there.
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Was it kerosine that you smelled, or the delicate fragrance of burnt jet fuel. BIG DIFFERENCE!
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