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Dufwer 13th March 2003 15:44


(iv) a cross-country flight of at least 540km (300 nm) in the course of which full-stop landings at two aerodromes different from the aerodromes of departure shall be made;
The above extract from CAA seems to imply that doing three away landings would not fulfill the requirement. A bit pedantic but it doesn't say "at least two".

D

Send Clowns 13th March 2003 22:37

I disagree Dufwer. If you make landings at half a dozen airfields you have, by any normal logic, landed at two. There is nothing saying "two and no more than two".

Why should they question, Minty? You have signed a legal document to that effect, as you do on most of your flights. I did my official qualifier in Florida as well (since the FAA PPL qualifier has the same requirements as the CAA CPL I coud have used that, but I think it was too long ago), and never even considered proof.

If they do querry it they can easily proove you fles the aircraft from the hirer's records. That should satisfy them.

Delta Wun-Wun 13th March 2003 22:53

I landed at three other airfields for my CPL qualifying cross country. I submitted my log book for CPL and then for FI, nothing said from CAA. CPL issued and FI rating issued.:D

benhurr 14th March 2003 00:00

QCC
 
I believe that there is a ruling regarding the distance from the starting point to the first intermediate. I think it is 100nm, but I suggest you double check.

I got signatures of QFI to authenticate my logbook and I had no problems with license issue - although I did keep my receipts just in case...

High Wing Drifter 14th March 2003 06:30


(iv) a cross-country flight of at least 540km (300 nm) in the course of which full-stop landings at two aerodromes different from the aerodromes of departure shall be made
"aerodromes of departure"? By that logic you would have to visit an infinite number of aerodromes as you would always have to land at two different ones from the the ones that you have departed from! I think that should read "the first aerodrome of departure".

redbar1 14th March 2003 09:18

High wing,

I think you are absolutely right. If one consults the original text in JAR-FCL, it states

(c) 20 hours of cross-country flight as pilot-in-command including a VFR cross-country flight totalling at least 540 km (300 NM) in the course of which full stop landings at two different aerodromes from the aerodrome of departure shall be made;
Unless CAA UK did this on purpose, the most probable cause is some typo just sneaked in an extra "s" in the "aerodrome of departure".

Cheers,
redbar1

Dufwer 14th March 2003 10:43

Send Clowns, as I said I was being pedantic. That's just me I suppose :( When it comes to decifering the meaning of CAA doco I have started taking them at absolute face value, i.e. if it doesn't say "two or more" or "at least two" but just "two", then two is what I'll do. I did a few extra hours during my PPL which turned out I didn't have to do, as a result of a "misunderstanding" of a particular requirement. I see from postings above that you can do more than two away landings and it is acceptable, but I'll plan on just two.

D


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