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captainkilner 19th December 2002 08:45

Mark up or mark down in exams ?
 
So near yet so far !!!

Just got my results back from the December exams and now passed 13 and failed perf. 74%

When we came out of the exams i was speaking to someone who said you couldn't get 74% in perf. He said because of the amount of marks you could only get 74.5%, now i maybe grasping at straws here but are they marked up or marked down?
must grumble !!!

Can ayone shed any light on this ?
Is it worth ringing the CAA ?

skydiverdriver 19th December 2002 09:05

Sorry to tell you, the CAA will say that 75% is the pass mark,
so even if you got 74.999999999% it is below 75%.
I went through the same thing last year and got nowhere with the CAA.

But just think of all those nice things the CAA can buy with your resit fees.:(

expedite_climb 19th December 2002 09:05

How many questions are there in the perf exam ?

Well done on your passes, and I'm playing devils advocate (before I get flamed!), but if the pass is 75 %, and you get 74.5% then I'm afraid its not a pass is it ?

With just that to do itll be no sweat next time.

- editted to say - gosh great minds think alike !!

captainkilner 19th December 2002 09:21

The only reason i was asking was that when you get your mark you don't get 74.5 % do you ? its either 74/75%

Cheers guy's you can live and hope eh ?

whats CAA stand for ? Cash And Agro !!!

FlyingForFun 19th December 2002 09:27

Hard luck... but don't give up just yet. Were there any questions on the exam which were, well, I hesitate to use the word "dubious", but we all know what some of the questions can be like! ;)

If so, make sure you have a word with your school... they'll be able to petition the CAA to have that question removed from the exam, but they'll only have a limited time to do it. I'm sure the ground-school instructors who are regular posters here will know more details, but if you're that close, and you can get one question removed which you got wrong, you should be in with a chance! You've certainly got nothing to loose....

FFF
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captainkilner 19th December 2002 09:55

Cheers FFF , i'll have to dig my notes out and see if i can remember any dodgy q's !!

If the mean time if anybody who sat the December perf exam can remember any dodgy q's that i can pass on to my school to appeal , that would be much appreciated. ( a very large drink will be despatched ASAP )

I'm a desparate man !!!:D

Cheers for the replies guy's:)

Just spoke to the CAA and and apparently if the mark is below 74.5% (i.e 74.4%) it gets marked down and if its above 74.5% (i.e 74.6%) you get marked up.

Also any queries on any questions have to submitted by your school before results are published.

Has anyone had a paper remarked ? if so did it have a positive outcome? or was it a waste of a crisp £20 note?

:confused: :confused:

Gin Slinger 19th December 2002 11:06

CAA not infallible, but...
 
captainkilner:

I know for a fact that at least manual re-mark has resulted in an upgraded result, however, apparently the guy involved was expecting a good pass in the subject, but initially given a silly mark like 37%. Someone obviously put the paper the wrong way through the machine or something along those lines.

All of June's papers had to be re-marked for some reason the CAA haven't publicised as far as I know; at least one paper was upgraded from 74% to 75% - I'm sure there's a groundschool bod or two lurking who know more of this story.

Despite all this, if I was in you shoes, I'd just accept you've failed, and book the resit ASAP. I picked up a couple of resits, and that's just what I did. Incidentally, just past my last one - PoF 85% :) 14/14 for me!

EDIT: just re-read the last post. As might have been mentioned, I'm 95% sure you can only appeal the questions set BEFORE the results are issued, after which, the manner in which the paper was marked is your only avenue.

Go-Around 19th December 2002 13:41


Just spoke to the CAA and and apparently if the mark is below 74.5% (i.e 74.4%) it gets marked down and if its above 74.5% (i.e 74.6%) you get marked up.
I should hope so! If i'd have got an answer of 74.6 in a question then I'd have gone for the option of 75 not 74!

Is the CAA ever going to get it's act together? I think not.

Gin Slinger 19th December 2002 14:35


If i'd have got an answer of 74.6 in a question then I'd have gone for the option of 75 not 74! Is the CAA ever going to get it's act together? I think not.
Hey, I'm not fan of the CAA, but I can't see what they've done wrong in this case. You've either answered enough questions correctly to pass or you haven't.

Learn the feedback, and answer the questions.

Go-Around 19th December 2002 18:04

Gin Slinger:

If you'd taken more than 3 seconds to read my post then you'll realise that I'm not saying that the CAA have got there rounding up or down wrong, it's just that I would hope they would apply the same principles for answers and marks! (See below)


Sorry to tell you, the CAA will say that 75% is the pass mark, so even if you got 74.999999999% it is below 75%.
I went through the same thing last year and got nowhere with the CAA.


Learn the feedback, and answer the questions
I did, and have a shiny blue book to prove it.


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