Worst Aviation Film
 

Weve had the Best aviation book, Best Aviation film youve seen etc etc questions.
But whats the worst thing youve seen in a movie about Flying ?
Saw the film "Turbulence" the other night starring Ray Liotta. Oh my God !! So bad it was funny. Especially the bit where the Air Hostess did a go around, dragged the landing gear through a Hotel Bar, a roof and a concrete Carpark where she managed to get a Ford Pickup truck stuck on her nosegear -this was later shot off by a fighter jet using an air to air missile without damaging the tyres....hee hee.
Can Anyone better that ?

Teroc

Any film where the hero/villain gains access to the wheel wells via a convienient hatch in the cargo hold, or one where the pilot does ANYTHING remotely energetic/physical/dangerous.

Or where the pilots eat less than a full passenger meal every hour.

Oh, and there was one with an inflatable autopilot..

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think it was called airspeed
brattty 13 yr old girl has to fly daddys private 727
a very very bad B movie!

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Follow your dream! Unless it's the one where you're at work in your underwear during a fire drill!

Two early 90's ones, Passenger 76 and an Arnie one. Both had them find a way from the cabin to the landing gear, then to junp off after rotate from 100 ft and 140 Kts. Not a scratch!!! But can anyone name a 90's movie where the Pilots actually survive at all?? With all the advanced autopilots it seems the Pilots are redundant and get shot in the first 1/2 hour.

I happen to think that the film with the inflatable autopilot is one of the best aviation films - especially the autopilot failure mode and the corrective action by one member of the cabin crew :)

I can see this thread heading off to the wilderness of JB...

Mik

I believe the Arnie one you mention was 'Commando'...made before he felt the need to 'act'.

You are correct, mik, in labelling 'that' film as one of the best, and one of my personal favorites, too.

It's a completely different kind of flying, altogether...

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Last month BA were showing MI2 as their inflight movie, first 6 mins show a 744 (or a film directors version thereof) planting itself into the side of a mountain. It really was the clip out of Airplane with all the pax watching a horrific crash of the same type they were sitting on!
Hosties supposed to make an announcement that those of a sensitive disposition ... but never did. Wonder if they lost many customers?

Bob

They showed one in the states that was a real loser!!! It had the pilots faced with the following dellema: they couldn't stop ascending!!!!! Blimey!!! So in the end to weigh the nose down they had to hold their breath, open a hatch on the roof of the cabin, face the depressurization, have a KC-707 full of H20 squirt it at them with the boom while they grabbed hold of the boom and squirted all the water into the nosewheel well, which in turn made the nose drop so they could land safely. That has to be one of the airliner movie classics.

AffirmBrest :

It's a completely different kind of flying.

And surely you can't be serious.....

I am serious and stop calling me Shirley. :)

....roger, Rodger.

Give me our vector, Victor.

We have clearance, Clarence... Over.

Best Aviation Film........

"....when I was was shot down over Macho Grande"

"Over Macho Grande?"

"No, I'll never be over Macho Grande!" :)

Worst? Had to be Airport 77.... quick, lets open a window at Mach whatever and fire a flare gun to deflect the oncoming missile! Good idea, chaps!

"Get the hell outta my airport!" :)
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Kanga - it was Macho Grande!

Sumimasen!

Much consumption of various beverages and little sleep not good for brain.

Why I laugh? D'oh!

Capt Kangeroo - The film to which you refer is Airport' 80 "The Concorde"

Airport '77 is the one where the B747 wing tip strikes the derek of an oil rig and sinks to the bottom of the seabed, before being miracously rescues by the US Navy. Quality.

I make no appologies for being a sad trainspotter of these films, but you just can't help yourself for watching them - or can you? Is there help out there.........????

I think it was Steven Segal when an F117A (stealth bomber) seemed to be carrying 4 pax! as if that wasn't enough it then went on to dock with the underside of a 747 straight and level at 40,000 ft! very nice! Or I think I can remember a film showing a 757 in a thunderstorm, after a brief shot in the cockpit comprising of various gauges and dials showing altitude in Km! speed in MPH! and a G counter showing +9 it went to a scene in the cabin that had the worst prop beat (asymetrics) you've ever heard, quite when a 757 developed pistons I don't know but it was all action despite the lack of good research!.............It's all bull!!!!!...........Tailwinds.........TD2

The sad thing is I have a really crappy copy of the film. It's a guilty pleasure.....

Further to my last post - sorry guys, brain not engaged today - I find that I have both these sad excuses for films.

Airport 77 had the sick child and blind piano player but I'm not sure if the nun was there too.

Capt K - you are partially right.

But the sick child was in Airport 1975 - the one with the singing nun. Here, Charlton Heston is lowered into the cockpit from a helicopter to land the plane after a mid-air causes death/injury to 2 of the crew, while the other is sucked out. OOOwwwww my gaaaaaad! The suspense.

But you are right, the blind piano player is in AP '77.
singing....."Beauty is in the eye of the beholder".....

He can't sing and gets crushed. Furthermore he was wearing ridicolous shades, so I say he got what he deserved.

Taildragger

That was Executive Decision. Kurt Russell lands the airliner with only a few hours in a single under his belt!

Independence Day......
there is no need for the president to jump in a fast jet and save the world. Imagine the world leaders of today doing that, Putin maybe, but Blair and Bush I doubt.

There was an early 90's shocker where the crew of a 747 are struck by lightning after take off and fried. The thing flies around at random until a computer nerd gets his laptop connected to the FMC- but it has to be seen to appreciate how dreadful it really is.

Capt K!
Yeah thats right executive decision, what a load of !$^&£!!! It was bugging me all last night, at least thats my excuse for not remembering anything of chapter 4 Air law! I'm off to the video shop!........Tailwinds.......TD2

I seem to recall a 1950s/1960s film starring someone like Dean Martin as a Captain with a drink problem,.......DC8, or Covair I seem to remember.......Now that was crappy.

Tailwinds

;)

I saw the one about the aircraft which couldn't decend, so they had to fill the forward hold with water from a tanker. And for the flare, well the gear doors would release the water, thereby bringing up the nose. Of course! It was dreadful - still I had to watch.

Executive decision and Air force one were other crackers. Quite clearly 200's but with full 400 instrumentation - and great EFIS messages in big bold letters - "Fuel Dumping" "Terrorist in Hold" etc. Or the touch and go in Air Force one at the German air base - Jeremy Clarkson couldn't have got a better bit of oversteer through and around the field.

My other gripe is when they show a 4 planes which are supposed to be one - i.e. a 73 taxiing , 75 taking off and a 727 landing.

Air Force One????
Bulletproof fuselage??
B747 with a tailgate?? People jumping out with parachutes, but no oxygen??
Hercules keeping up while people got transferred between the two??
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And what about all those quiet aircraft cabins - I wish I could travel in one and get a good nights sleep...

Don't forget that the flare fired from the cockpit window in Airport 80 attracted a RADAR GUIDED missle! And they never did show the captains left arm being sewn back on after it got ripped off at 300kt+.

How about the Burt Lancaster "Raid on Entebee" where the Israeli special cforces guys are able to hold whispered conversations in the back of a Herc? Last time I flew in one of those I couldn't even hear myself shouting!

No one mentioned "Top Gun" - hell, it's even funnier than "Hot Shots".

Yaks.. I feel sick when I think about Airforce One...

Then there was Die hard II where Bruce Willis literally destroys an airport. I can remeber the bad guys adjusting GS from tower and 6000 innocent people crashing a DC8 or similar. Ooooh that was pretty bad too.

JJ

Of course on the Airport 77 Concorde did a barrel roll to avoid the missile, and all the pax fell to the ceiling, excellent!

The best has to be the one about the Air Canada 757 running out of gas and deadsticking onto the airstrip (true story) with every cliche in the book, including Captains wife with cancer. I forget the name.
The actors were all americans pretending to be canuks.

Yeah - Die Hard II - I never got why the Bad guys had to use some computer gizmo to adjust the ILS when all they needed to do was give the wrong QNH over the R/T...

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I forgot Die Hard II - with the ejector seat in the Herc and the fuel leak (kerosene) that was ignited by a Zippo and blew up an airliner (707) that was doing about 100kts!

Mty wife hates it when these films come on as I always sit there and point out the (many) errors!

And they all have "Aviation Consultants" working for them. Makes you wonder how good the medical consultants on Casualty and ER are.

What I loved about Die Hard 2 was how the DC-8, captained by Colm Meaney, exploded into a massive fireball even though it had empty fuel tanks??
A good one, but scary, was the movie made about the Sioux City DC10 crash, including actual footage of the impact. The film really shows you how well the crew managed to land(crash) the plane with little or no elevator, rudder and aileron control. They had to use the throttles to stear the plane!!!
A recent one I saw about a 747 captain who had 3 wives in different cities on his route was quite amusing.
Like "no sponsor" mentioned, movies (usually cheap crap) which have footage of a 737 t/o, a Dc-10 cruising and to top it off a 747 landing when they are supposed to be all the same plane really piss me off!

BTB
it was a 767 and the movie was freefall. saw it on tv not long ago.
what i really thought was stupid about it was how they showed the guys climbing up an escape slide at the rear door to get back into the aircraft. when they could have just stepped back in at the front door (the nose gear had collasped)like they did in real life!

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I liked the RTO in a film with Ben Aflick and Sandra Bullock. Can't remember the title but it was a comedy about getting home for a wedding or something. The 737 hurtles down the runway the brakes go on, plane crashes through a fence and stops. Captain opens the DV window and removes bits of fence from the windscreen. Had me in stitches :) :) :)

....andf somehow all the "migs" in Iron Eagle and Top-gun are either Tigers or skyhawks...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

billy the kid
the movie is called forces of nature
and i haven't seen it
maybe i should, ben affleck isn't too bad ;)

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Naaaah, for REALLY rubbish aviation films, you cant beatthe one where the kids get in a space shuttle and fly it into space with a robot......well its a kind of aviation. Cant remeber the title http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/confused.gif

It's gotta be Airspeed. Check any of the sky movie channels during the day and it will be on. Come on sky, give me something better to watch during my off days......

Flight Deck on Discovery Wings can also be anoying. Interesting programme but the Narrator talks like we are all 5yrs old. Did you know that an Airbus is only like a bus when taxing!! Comeon Discover, ditch this man.