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juswonnafly 26th February 2002 19:34

Multi/IR renewal ... sim? ... A/C? ... or both?
 
Does anyone have any recent experience of renewing these ratings? I have wonderered about getting the multi renewal done and out of the way on a seneca (I have the sectors required) and then doing the I/R on a sim. However I would prefer something better than a Frasca 142!

The reasoning for this is that I am fairly happy about the 'twin' stuff but feeling vunerable on the IR stuff.

Any advice welcome

Thanx

JWF

Stan Evil 26th February 2002 20:27

To revalidate your IR on a 'sim' you must do it in an approved FNPT II or a real Flight Simulator. The Frascas you grew to know and love/hate during your training were not FNPT IIs. Although, on the face of it, the sim plus aircraft route looks cheapest, remember that you'll get tested twice on all of the asymmetric work.

salapilot 26th February 2002 21:58

I did my class rating and then went to the sim at Cranfield and got the renewal with 3 hours on the sim. Cost £500 which includes all the fees.. .Ideally it is best on the actual a/c but with the weather and costs of flying a twin it is a reasonably cheap way of staying current.

sp

xabi200 27th February 2002 15:03

My advice would be to go to spain.. .Actual twin aircraft hourly rate in Spain is the same as FNPTII hourly rate in the UK;. .So you get to do everything in the aircraft so at the end it turns out cheaper.. .Of course only guys with JAR licence can do that.

signeti 27th February 2002 16:42

xabi

u've caught my interest , where in spain can u do that?. .i presume u are not talking about BAe Systems in jerez ?. .i have until late summer to renew mine or i can kiss this career good bye

as for the rest of you guys , could ye please post links to the british options , doing the sim / A/c route sounds good to me aswell , anything to get the renewal out of the way

. .thanks

regor 27th February 2002 18:28

There was a recent thread about this subject about two weeks ago, I think.

I know that CTC Aviation have begun hiring out their Kingair B200 FNPT II/MCC sim' for IR practice and renewals.

Follow this link for more info:

<a href="http://www.ctcaviation.com/kingairadvert.htm" target="_blank">www.ctcaviation.com/kingairadvert.htm</a>

The only thing is they are based in Southampton!

Hope this helps.

RD

signeti 28th February 2002 05:03

Thanks for that red demon . .its seriously worth considering , i'd love to do the renewal in the a/c but times is tough,chances are i wont get a job this year any way ...

AK747 28th February 2002 05:13

I am also interested in renewing my IR.. .Does anybody has by any change the phonenumber of Stapleford airport or the flyingschool over there?

xabi200 28th February 2002 09:55

Signeti and the other,

I was not talking about BAE of course as they market for the brits, their price are based on UK priced.. .Here is a list of JAR approved school where the renawal can be done.. .When I called the CAA they told me that some people with JAA UK issued licence already renewed their at AIR MED,and the CAA validated it no problem,at last JAA is kiking in..... .*ADVENTIA (Salamanca) *AEROWAY (Madrid and Alicante). .Tel :+34 923 329 019 Tel :+34 91 508 99 07. .WEB :www.adventia.org Tel :+34 96 691 93 39

*AERO MADRID(Madrid) <a href="http://www.arrakis.es/~aeromadrid" target="_blank">www.arrakis.es/~aeromadrid</a>. .Tel :+34 91 508 9620. . Cost of IR rewal 508 Euros includes 1h in seneca and ½ simulator. .Otherwise seneca hourly rate 300euros. .Non approved ME simulator(like the one in adelaide) hourly rate 54 euros

*TADAIR(barcelona). .<a href="http://www.tadair.com" target="_blank">www.tadair.com</a>. .Tel : +34 93 712 3608. .Beechcraft traveler 235 euros an hour. .Simulator turboprop 192 euros an hour. .Simulator ME non approved 60 euros an hour

Ask for Pedro, i went overthere the sim are just OK. But there is no briefing b4 and after the sim session any explaination during the sim session.Instructors have no time between two sim session, one session ends at 10 the next one starts at ten.

*AIRMAN *AEROTEC(Madrid) *AIRMED(Valencia). .Tel : +34 91 564 04 93 Tel :+34 91 508 52 45 Tel :+34 96 152 3195. .Aztec hourly rate 222euros seneca houly rate :300 euros <a href="http://www.airmed.es" target="_blank">www.airmed.es</a>. .(madrid and malaga) <a href="http://www.aerotec.es" target="_blank">www.aerotec.es</a>. .<a href="http://www.arrakis.es/~airman" target="_blank">www.arrakis.es/~airman</a>

*AMERICAN FLYERS *CENTERVOL(Gerona) . .(Madrid) Tel :+34 972 47 4204 . .Tel :+34 91 329 29 28 <a href="http://www.centervol.com" target="_blank">www.centervol.com</a> . .Email : [email protected]

*TOPFLY *C.F.A.C(canary island). .<a href="http://www.topfly.com" target="_blank">www.topfly.com</a> Tel :+34 922 293 771/922 293 146/922 151 396. .Tel :+34 93 712 2360 . .Tel :+34 902 46 00 06

*ISV(palma de mallorca) *AIRPAL(Palma de mallorca). .Tel :+34 971451656 Tel : +34 971 721 351. .www .panamedia.org Email :[email protected]

Start learning spanish guys...

signeti 28th February 2002 18:10

a year and a bit living in spain and i still couldnt speak the language , damned if i'm gonna learn it for renewal :)

faff faff faff faff inflytion chris waddle

xabi200 28th February 2002 18:56

Hey signeti,

You were in Jerez???

What course were you on?

I don't remenber you. Do you remenber me?

cheers

ElNino 28th February 2002 19:04

Hey signeti

Theres a school in Salamanca. Fancy another weekend there......!!!! :)

signeti 1st March 2002 05:19

The Golden Cse 7. .why Xabi , where were u in the grand scheme of things ?

BTW :

GOVERMENT HEALTH WARNING - WEEKENDS IN SALAMANCA CAN SERIOUSLY AFFECT YOUR SEX LIFE ...FOREVER (and not in a good way either) <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

xabi200 1st March 2002 22:55

Hey signety,

I was in course 2 or 3, I'm one of the french guys who went to Adelaide and finished up in Jerez.. .You never saw me dancing on the wall and surfing in the pool?

No wonder I can't find a job.....

Later

signeti 2nd March 2002 04:56

did u do your cpl land away with us in faro and seville ?. .i'm sure i remember the prodigal frogs

xabi200 2nd March 2002 12:56

No that must have been Mickael.

Wheren't you overthere in April/May, don't you remenber the hawaiian party?

Cheers.

ElNino 2nd March 2002 17:29

I remember the Hawaiian party. Who could forget the Norwegian chick taking off her top while dancing on the wall!

xabi200 3rd March 2002 13:37

How come you remenber the Norwegian girl and not me??????. .I was on the wall too.

IRRenewal 3rd March 2002 15:56

To get back to the original subject:. .. .My views can be found on. .. .<a href="http://www.irrenewal.com/faq.htm#simulator" target="_blank">http://www.irrenewal.com/faq.htm#simulator</a>. .. .Regards

juswonnafly 3rd March 2002 17:00

Thank you for the original replies guys, however this seems to have turned into a private chat form!!??. .. .IR RENEWAL.....straight to the point...cheers. .. .JWF <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />


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