Best Fly Hungary
 

Hi everyone,

Does someone of you have experience with Best Fly Kft, an hungarian ATO in Kalocsa?
I am planning to do the CPL/IR/MEP there, I already visited the school and it's quite basic but seems a great deal for that price, however I was looking for some feedbacks from other students since I can't find much online.

Thanks

Hello!
I have some friends who took their FI-rating at Best fly not too long ago. They're really satisfied.
Quite extraordinary that the hangar is located at an old soviet airbase..:8 Everything is very primitive, but the aircraft safety-standard is fine.
They were flying for at least 4 hours a day.
I would say go for it, it will save you a lot of money and the instructors are nice.

- This is what they have told me about their experience at Best Fly, I haven't been there myself.

However be aware, not all airlines appreciate candidates who underwent the training at some random cheap flight school in a corrupt country like Hungary. Especially if you're a modular student pilot. Just saying.
There are a lot of shady flight schools in Hungary, so think twice before applying to any school.. You might save money, but safety is more important than anything..

Most importantly is what you think, considering you've been there.

Does someone has more information about this school in the meantime? I am looking into this school for CPL/ME/IR but can not find a lot of references.

I did 40hrs hour building there and I was satisfied with them. It took me 8 days to complete as I was flying almost the limit per day with one rest day. Accommodation was 15eur per day. I paid 120eur per hour including safety pilot on the C172.

It definitely is a very rural and basic flight school, but it's also worth the price in my opinion.
I previously flew and studied in a good flight school in Western Europe, so keep in mind I was used to high standards.

I'll list some pros and cons of my experience with BestFly.


Pros:
- Instructors have a lot of available time to fly, therefore you'll be able to finish the training in a relatively short time.
- Most of them are kind and helpful, and they provide a decent quality of training.
- They have quite a large fleet, consisting of 2 PA44-180T Seminole, 3 C172s and several others C152s.
- After taking an exam, the CAA where I got my license requires a lot of extra documents, not required by the Hungarian one. They were able to provide all of them quickly.
- They offer long term accommodations few kilometers away from the airport, exactly in the city center. Good prices, the apartments are nice, comfortable and well furnished.
- Most of the time the instructors will give you a lift from the accommodation to the airport.
They also provide few bicycles on request.
- Overall prices.

Not closely related to the flight school itself, but few other things I liked where:
- The Hungarian CAA, really efficient and great availability of examiners.
- There are several grass airstrips around Kalocsa. It was fun and challenging to operate there in windy conditions.


And now the negative points:
- Even if the general conditions of the planes were alright, they were pretty dirty, dusty, and with old avionics. For example, all the C152s (except one) only had a Mode-A transponder. Therefore you weren't allowed to fly in controlled airspace.
Also, don't expect a G1000 on the C172s. Two of them were only equipped with the G650, the third one with a G750Xi.
- There are no real SOPs. Just non written rules that differ even among the instructors.
- It's not airline-oriented.
- They will not allow you to fly outside of the national borders.
- Unfortunately, few instructors aren't that great and lack in knowledge (especially about GPS navigation and new technologies).
- After a while I got tired of flying there. I flew my first 100 hours in a pretty complex airspace, with a lot of traffic around and most of the time flying through large international airports, across the sea or around 10000ft high mountains. While Hungary might be an amazing country, sometimes I found it a bit boring flying there. Just an endless plain with few medium airports and a lot of small airstrips.

I tried to compare the experiences, newly acquired skills and knowledge with other close friends who studied in another well known flight school in Warsaw.
Came out that their training wasn't much better than mine.

Therefore I'm quite happy about my experience with BestFly. It's definitely not the best flight school around, but they always gave me what I asked and paid for. A lot could be easily improved and corrected, but again, can't complain for that price.

Hope someone will find this feedback useful! :)

Schools/ATO/Flight Schools in Hungary
 

Greetings to all users of the forum,
I hope that someone knows something about pilot schools in Hungary, their experiences with passing the ATPL exam, flying and obtaining a CPL / ATPL license. Due to the fact that due to world events, the increase in prices on the market had a lot of influence, aviation was not spared. Of course, each of us would like to receive the best possible training at a reasonable price. It would be important to me if someone had more information about schooling in Hungary, whether it is necessary to attend classes, whether there is anything online, etc...Thank you :)

Hi Bernouli, for all your questions there's answer, it would be nice if U can be more precise what you want ,than someone can post exactly some known info ...
For example , there's several ATO / Schools in Hungary to obtain pilot license ,and of course prices vary . But more or less price does not play so much roll if you search for specific option suitable for you. Let's start with ATPL Theory , more or less price is the same between schools, but, do you want classic room classes or online classes with self study ?

Hi,thank you for your reply! Honestly, I'm more interested in online ATPL theory, because I would have more time to devote myself to studying, and with all that, I'm working, so going to the classroom would be a bigger "burden" for me.
Although there is no difference because it is a modular course, I would also take advantage of the opportunity of online teaching. I don't know for now how the exams work in Hungary, but i assume that each country has its own rules for taking the ATPL exam. I looked on the internet and found several schools, in general all the offers are similar, but during the search one stands out and has excellent reviews. I don't know if it's a good idea to post a link here so I don't break the forum rules...?:)

Write and you will see, if you break the rules ,moderators will delete your link. But, here is the place to share info and for other people to help everyone in need... In my case, i know other places than Hungary for 100% online theory ,works pretty well as i know from my colleagues... Give us the link and let us check :)

So, it's about this www.easy-pilot.com/atpl-theory . and there is some other links for conversion... http://www.easy-pilot.com/convert-to...exam-in-europe
As i saw, few places are available to cooperate with this school at distance learning system ( 100% online ) , as far i hear and red , lot of them are satisfied clients which is good :)

Oh yes, I know about this company, just wasn't sure you were talking about it. Known because of colleagues who did this https://www.easy-pilot.com/convert-to-easa#southafrica , and among other things, i also attended one from their programs. If you go to them, a pleasant surprise and really excellent service. The team is really correct, you won't go wrong

Guys, why don't you buy some adverts on PPRuNe instead of creating fake dialogues?

Does anybody have any updates on Bestfly? I just finished a call with their CFI, their 0 to ATPL course has a minimum cost of 36,000 euro. They have 5 Cessna 152s, 5 Cessna 172s, and 2 other multiengined aircraft. They told me that around half of the students are able to pass the course and claim that the European airlines will hire pilots as first officers right out of training. If anyone has been through this school (or any similar Eastern European school) and was able to find easy employment then please share your experience. Hours seem pretty cheap, with the 152 and 172 the cost is 110 euro.

Hungarian Flight Schools.
 

Good day. I'm new here and am hoping to be able to find some advice as I follow my lifetime dream of becoming a pilot. I've been looking into 0 to ATPL flight training in eastern Europe and Hungary seems like the best country to train in. Does anybody have any experience with a 0 to ATPL course in the region and can steer me to a good flight school?

Thanks!

You can try Trener Kft in Nyiregyhaza.

ATPL in Hungary
 

Hey everyone! Sorry if I post this question in wrong thread. But I saw this question about ATPL in Hungary. For how long ATPL is valid in Hungary? I would like to get CPL as well, but I know I won't be able to do it all at once (it's a good chunk of money) so I just want to know how much time do I have after getting ATPL. Thank you for help!

I am also interested. Planning to start a PPL there. If anyone has experience with them please share with me.
Also regarding the weather during winter in Hungary, I heard winters are quite mild the past few years which means good flight weather??

How is the availability of instructors?Are there hidden cost like they want the students to take extra hours or keep delaying the training?

Thank you in advance!

I will be going there fot HB in March, I'll update when I'm done!

Hi,
Been with Best Fly for my ME/IR skill tests and A-UPRT certificate. Can confirm everything said above: great school for the price.
I flew in late Oct and in Dec, the weather is definitely better than in most neighboring countries. It's been kind of windy there, especially when flying closer to Pecs, so it might be a challenge for a PPL cadet.
Even though the school is "rural", it still delivers. They'll manage everything to be as effective as possible in terms of scheduling, or at least that's what they did for me.
The planes are quite old, but I've seen worse. The maintenance is alright.
There were no hidden costs whatsoever, and I was quite surprised by that - it is almost a common practice for ATOs today.
The town is small but quite rich for its size, there are decent restaurants, banks, even museum I think. People are friendly and will try to understand English.
I walked everywhere, but it did take a lot of time. They said they provide bikes for long-term cadets. If you can rent a car in BUD, you should probably do it.

To sum it up, Best Fly is like an AK rifle: user-friendly, reliable, and inexpensive. Fancy, cutting-edge? No. Gets the job done? Yes.

Hi! do you know if they had the CPL/MEP-IR program? I only see the SEP-IR and then the conversion to MEP-IR. I want to do the CPL/MEP-IR so that I can ditch the SEP-IR test

I did the conversion from ICAO MEP/IR to EASA MEP/IR there, so I don't know. But I can't see why not. If it doesn't go against their approved training program, of course.
I can PM you their Whatsapp contacts and you'll ask yourself, they are pretty quick with the replies. Let me know if you need it.

HI!
I recently did my PPL Training with this school and I can say I am very satisfied with the training and the admin team who helped me with the whole process including accommodation and transport
i would definitely recommend this school if you are looking to do as many hours as possible in the shortest time because from my experience I’ve noticed they have more aircraft’s than students at certain times of the year
the training you receive differs from instructor to instructor because there is no set company standards but regardless they will do everything they can to help you pass.. I passed my checkride first time in the worst conditions possible
i will be going back in march to get the rest of my ratings so if you will be there I hope we get to meet 😁
no hidden costs only additional costs you have to pay yourself is for accommodation, transport exam fees and maybe landing fees for other airports (I say maybe because I landed in a few and didn’t pay but can’t say if that’s just for me or for all students)
mid you have any questions about my experience at this school you can email me on [email protected] or on instagram @mimchi__

Hi guys. I've heard that their avionics are bad. Did they improve anything?

I'll see you there!

Haven't been there, but I will update you when I see the planes :)

They are not organized at all. We had an agreement with them for a training, they went sideways 5 days before the starting date. They dont appreciate the customer really. Deal with them on your own risk. There are better schools in Szeged and Budapest - more serious and with better infrastructure. Kalocsca runway is crap, and also the place is in the middle of nowhere - believe me. Good luck.

Fastest and Cost-Effective ICAO to EASA Conversion
 

Hi, I was trying to convert an ICAO license in France and I almost gave up my life. I have lived in about 6 countries, including some 3rd world countries, but France's administration is the slowest I have seen in any part of the world. I was surprised to see this kind of ****ty bureaucracy in a 1st world country like France. Even the schools are just terrible, very racist, administrative emails take forever, like months literally. Eventually, waiting for things to happen, I decided to look elsewhere in Europe.

Looking for an alternative, one school in Switzerland got my attention because of the reaction speed. I was getting replies immediately. I went to see them the next week, and I was really impressed by their professionalism and their facility. As they say it was really Swiss quality with cheese haha. I have been in aviation for 16 years, dealing with multiple schools, multiple civil aviation authorities, these Swiss guys got my attention immediately. It is a small school operating from Bern Airport. The Swiss scenery is just an add-on, talking about value they provide is just crazy. You deal directly with the owner who is also a Civil Aviation flight examiner. Very high standard, very high compassion, they see your problem as their problem, tailor-made program. Most importantly, there is no waiting game. 2 weeks intensive conversion program (provided you have your EASA ATPL papers, class 1 medical, and valid ICAO license with ratings), and the license on the same day or next day when you give your checkride. Even with the Swiss prices, it was much cheaper than France. Having been in this industry for this many years I really know when I see efficient people and Tom (owner of the school) is one of them.

Alpaviation, Bern - Look for Tom.

I'm posting this to spread the word as the school is not into marketing. Almost all students are just word of mouth. I am doing my best to give them some reach.

Feel free to contact me if you need more details.

Any reply from they?
 

Hi guys who apparently doing courses there right now, can you PM me or telegram aitreghe? I did a first enquiry on which got a reply from Csaba on SATURDAY that i have to go to Debrecen to do Med1 then am welcome to do the PPL middle april. I should receive more info on monday. But then they don't write anymore, what's going on there, are they working? Because contact form on the site is also with error, you can only write to their flytaxi address.

So tell please someone sth!

I'm new here, can't do any PM yet (rule 3 posts prior be able to PM)

They are working I’m currently there

ok thank for you reply. Do you surely know Csaba there, can you please remind him of me (Dimitri) or ask why he didn't reply anymore? And how it is there, if many students and how is the weather? And maybe you already can tell who a previous guys meant as there are some instructors not that perfect? What did you mean actually you go do HB??

must now say the comm probs were temporary. Csilla then contacted me and now answers very fast, I am already fully equipped with learning stuff. :ok:

RUHUCH Hi! What are you going to bring with you for your PPL course? Is Ipad necessary to do PPL? Do they provide any learning materials for PPL? Where the ground school takes place?

Only just come across this!

Recent winters have been very mild, whether that's a permanent thing (as a result of the global trend) or just a passing phase I can't say!

Also this last winter was, I think, ideal for flying with a lot of beautiful clear days.

Hi guys. I sent a message to Best Fly but still didn't get any response from them. Do they provide any learning materials? Where does ground school take place?

Best Fly review for timebuilding and AUPRT
Took me 16 days to build 85h. The price you see on the website is the price I paid per hour 110€/h with safety pilot included. If you wish to fly without the safety pilot you can ask the owner of the school and see if they let you fly solo, in some occasions they do, but is not the norm. I flew 6h a day 6 days in a row with the seventh day being off, exhausting lol but doable and fast. You are not allowed to fly outside of the country, kind of a bummer because I would have liked to see the neighboring countries and different radios/procedures but meh. The safety pilots will suggest routes that include free fields to practice touch and goes, which are usually grass fields, if you like them then you will enjoy the experience since there are lots around the country. If you wish to go to any other field that have a landing fee, you will foot the bill. I asked for the accommodation they offer and the apartment exceeded my expectations specially for the price 20€/night.
Plane conditions The planes undergo maintenance at a nearby field and for the small repairs they have in house maintenance and mechanic on call, overall the planes are well maintained but I did see some with some funky avionics, I asked and they said is because they are on the process of updating the cockpit to glass and that's why they don't bother replacing them since the upgrade is happening soon. (mhmmmmaight) also some of the plane tires are working overtime.
Airfield Is an uncontrolled airfield property of the school where the apron,taxiway and runway are in a 5/10 condition, the original runway if it were in operating condition it would be amazing, but they only use like 1/5th of it since that's how much they can maintain in workable condition.
AUPRT Done and dusted in 2 days, is cheap and teaches you how to get out of the real spins on a C152 aerobat, we practiced tehm quie a lot since they did not bother me, I enjoyed the experience and learning from the instructor who is a retired aerobat pilot among others.
Safety pilots The safety pilots most of them are also PPL instructors for the school, and they all have different ways of flying the plane and how/what they want done and when. What I mean: one time I was on the base leg and the safety pilot yelled at me for selecting flaps 10 on this leg since it is what I learned during my PPL. Come the next day to fly with another one, I purposely don't select flaps on base and I get yelled for not selecting it, so.. yeah... they tend to forget that you are not a student in the sense that they should not act as teachers but oh well (if you want to know more I'll speak more on it by DM) Over all great experience, I got exactly what I payed for, fast time building, and good treatment. Even though there are not many reviews online there were quite a lot of students completing different stages of training. They have a total of 3 C172 they have 2 others but they are undergoing upgrade of the cockpit, 7 C152, 1 piper Seneca, another multi but is currently out of commission. Quite a lot of planes. I did my TB on the 152's mostly but if you ask and they are free you can fly the C172's which I did in some occasions. Hope it helps!

the course is done online, no classes in person. You just need laptop/tablet to access their training website (not an app)
They also provide you with the question bank in the PPL course material which you should memorise because they are 90% similar to the Hungarian CAA exams. I say 90% because they have changed the question bank for principles of flight since 2023 I think.

I’ll give this one a bump up
i am after a list of ATOs recognized by the hungarian CAA (NHK)

their whole webpage looks like an underdeveloped ground school web project with no info on anything whatsoever, though HU is a part of EASA and are obliged to publish such info
anyone knows how to find it please step up

I’ll give this one a bump up
i am after a list of ATOs recognized by the hungarian CAA (NHK)

their whole webpage looks like an underdeveloped ground school web project with no info on anything whatsoever, though HU is a part of EASA and are obliged to publish such info
anyone knows how to find it please step up

LHKA their homebase is in the middle of nowhere but the prices are very attractive. Plane conditions are OK.

Check this one. They do zero to hero and also conversions.

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