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MAX 1st January 2002 00:30

Anyone having a working New Year? Just finished a shift and have to be at Airport for 7am 2moro! <img src="frown.gif" border="0">

MAX <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

Dudley 1st January 2002 03:57

Me working 2morrow as well !!!

Happy New Year everybody

Constant Speed DU 1st January 2002 21:48

Wishing everyone a Happy New Year and lets hope the telephone rings this year!! Hope the hangovers aren't too bad!!

The Hooded Claw 2nd January 2002 14:39

I've not seen a note about recruitment, but then I don't seem to have gone to work for a couple of weeks.

I'm back at work at the weekend, so I'll post something when I get back if no-one beats me to it.

Happy new year to you all!!

starship 2nd January 2002 22:51

Hooded Claw! Cheers, any information from the inside would be appreciated by all in 'the hold'.

In addition, any info on whether or not the fleet will be down a hull or two this year would be appreciated. Just something which had been considered a possibility.

cheers,

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BronzeAge 5th January 2002 18:02

Happy New Year all..

I spoke to HR yesterday and still no news...

Thanks for that address Max

The Hooded Claw 6th January 2002 03:44

I've been in a few crew rooms this weekend, and I haven't seen anything about recruiting.

I would be very surprised if we don't though, as we'll be very short next summer.

Don't give up hope, and I'll keep looking out.

chinchaser 7th January 2002 20:41

Starship, the last news we have been given by our brave leaders was that there won't be a reduction in hulls unless the Jan/Feb sales are really poor. word is that so far sales are on the up therefore hopefully all will be well. But the calorifically challenged female has not sung yet!!

All the best
Chin <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

starship 8th January 2002 04:36

Chin, cheers for that. Lets hope the calorifically challenged :) lady becomes vocally challenged and makes herself scarce. She seems to have disappeared from the tail, so maybe we are in for a good year.

Best Wishes to all in the hold, and at Brit for 2002.

cheers,

starship <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

Constant Speed DU 10th January 2002 13:24

Happy New Year to everyone! Let's hope this year brings some good fortune and we actually get airborne!!

The only thing I have managed to find out is that BAL are talking to OATS as they are thinking of starting a cadet sponsorship scheme in the next couple of years.

Anyway, thank you for the news on the inside!

MAX, sorry only got your mail the other day, I've been away.

starship 14th January 2002 20:37

Refreshing thread. <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

cheers,

starship

Constant Speed DU 18th January 2002 22:57

Unfortunately, I heard today that all of the charter airline bookings are up 20% on previous years except for the Thomson Group.Has anyone else out there got any more info?

I also heard that if someone is made redundant, the company cannot offer the job to anyone else until they have re-offered it to the previous employee/s. This apparently stands for a three year period.Can anyone enlighten me to whether there is any truth in this fact.

Anyway, lets hope that bookings get better and we get a call!

Kempus 18th January 2002 23:24

Hi folks!

I hope i can help with some info for you guys. I am at the moment a travel agent working for Thomas Cook and well what i can say is that we are dam busy! The package holiday market is really starting to get momentum and it dosent look like it is going to stop until the holidays run out which, alot of them are.

We are also begining to take alot of long haul bookings so there is light at the end of the tunnel for the larger carriers too.

What alot of the tour operators which have thier own airline (ie. JMC, Airtours, Thompsons etc) are doing is adding an "air security fee" to all bookings in order to recuperate the lost revenue over the past 5 months!

As for being made redundant, i was paid off in october but started again this week but as i took no redundancy pay so they could hire me straight away however, other colleagues who took redundancy pay, cannot be hired for at least 6 months although we are shouting for staff! Not sure how it works for you but just wanted to add my wee bit!

Anyway hope you find that a little helpfull as to be honest i'd much rather be flying them to bloody Ibiza than just booking them to go there! Chin up, it's picking up!!

Cheers, Kempus

MAX 19th January 2002 17:42

As I see it Constant, because we never made our start date, or therefore passed the probation period we never were actually made redundant. I guess we were really never on the payroll to begin with. We just were not fully recruited. Therefore, policy or not, we dont qualify. I think it covers the pilots on the line in case of such an eventuality. Do you think?

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BronzeAge 23rd January 2002 19:54

I bumped into a Brit Training Captain at work this morning - friendley sort. Unfortunately he said that the company would take on 757/767 rated guys initially when recruitment begins again. Although he did say that all the charter companies would have the same idea.

Cheers All.......

MAX 23rd January 2002 20:03

Just how many 757 rated pilots willing to live in Glasgow are there? :)

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wysiwyg 24th January 2002 06:31

At JMC last year GLA was the most in demand 757 base.

tailscrape 24th January 2002 15:40

MAX,

To join brits i will go to GLA, and I have a 757 rating and more than 500 hours on type. And I had applied pre Sept 11, and they had replied and will be in touch in the future they said. So, there is one for you. Sorry mate.

BronzeAge 24th January 2002 17:10

Tailscrape, I would have thought that you still need to pass the two day selection process. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

tailscrape 24th January 2002 20:14

Yes, I know that. But I think I may be able to do that....I hope.

This isn't about me. It is a response to a comment. Brits are a good airline, and plenty of experienced drivers would jump to move there. That is my point.

MAX 24th January 2002 20:33

I'm sure you are absolutely right Tailscrape. I was being facetious about GLA more than anything else. Personally I would live on Mars if they gave me my course date back.

Good luck.

MAX <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

Airbus A320 25th January 2002 00:06

If I had to live in GLA to even get a job on a Cessna Caravan or Jetstream I would do it without hesitation (though, I don't think Buckfast is really allowed in the flight deck these days.....)

tailscrape 25th January 2002 19:23

Max,

As a slight ray of hope....although it is not an official source: A good friend of mine who is a VERY senior Brits Skipper thinks that when recruitment begins, you guys in the pool will be in first. This is the way they have done things in the past.

That is good news for you lot. After all you are the ones who were first in. However, he may be wrong , it is only his opinion.

Things are looking up, keep searching and remember Brits are not the only airline. A bird in the hand etc.....

Good Luck.

Constant Speed DU 29th January 2002 21:33

Refreshing thread

Robbie-Rocket-Pants 1st February 2002 17:54

Hello Chaps,. .I have only recently found your thread and I feel for you all.. .I have had a re-issue of my 757/767 Flight Crew Training Manual and was wondering if any of you might like the old copy to browse through for when things brighten up for you.. .First hold-pool Britannia chap to reply to [email protected] can have it.

. ........it's gone now.

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MAX 1st February 2002 18:36

Mighty kind of you. Ive dropped you an email and hope I was quick enough.

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Bluebaron 2nd February 2002 17:59

Well missed out there, always next time.

Thanks for the support of everyone this is a really postive thread.

Constant Speed DU 4th February 2002 01:47

MAX,

Any chance of borrowing the 757/767 FCM after you?

Constant Speed DU 7th February 2002 23:19

Back to the top!

MAX 8th February 2002 02:15

I guess to be fair once Ive had a good read I should put it up for the lottery again.

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Constant Speed DU 12th February 2002 02:13

Refreshing thread!

chinchaser 13th February 2002 18:53

hi gang! Its good to see that the theread's still going, unfortunately no news from the inside at hte minute, but should things change no doubt you'll find out before those of us on the inside!!

one snippet you may find of intrest, long haul on the 767 is now restricted to a very limited number of crews, MAN and LGW with a small seniority based group for winter ops only. Basically this means that whilst those who end up at MAN, LGW and BHX may get rated to the 767 after a year on the line, the shopping trips to Orlando will be a while after!. . I accept not an imediate concern but something that will effect!

All the best and keep with it all.

regards

Chinchaser.

MAX 13th February 2002 19:14

I was in Geneva for a quick espresso Saturday and couldnt keep my eyes off the 4-5 Brittania aircraft. The first Sat. of the school break and everyone was off skiing I guess. It was very demoralising, believe me.

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The Hooded Claw 14th February 2002 15:34

Don't get your hopes up yet guys, but the rumour withtin at the moment is that we could be operating two extra (Swedish) 757's this season.

As far as I can make out, no desision has been made on recruitment at the moment, and the issue of type rated pilots being available is being generally discussed.

Hang the Bandit 14th February 2002 19:22

Hi R! I was under the impression that we were getting 2 75's from Sveeeden, but were giving se-duk and another leased a/c back to whoever, and so keeping the same amount of a/c? Have I got that wrong?

Anyway guys, I'm flying with a v.senior TC next week so I'll ask what the score is.

If anyone in the pool wants my old 75 training manual get in touch. I'll obviously only be able to pass with some proof tho!

Hang in there, it WILL happen eventually. It's no fun until you've waited at least 18 months!!! :)

[email protected]

The Hooded Claw 15th February 2002 03:37

Hi there Willy, I see you have a bad case of multiple identities!!

You may well be correct there, but I was under the impression that SE-DUK was staying. At least we aren't reducing the fleet!

Constant Speed DU 15th February 2002 12:19

Thank you for the updates!Lets hope that they drain the hold pool first rather than going for type rated pilots.

wysiwyg 15th February 2002 12:49

To all those in the holding pool - it looks like there won't be a large number of 757 rated pilots on the market as was previously stated. I believe Air2k only laid off 12 rated pilots (and are highly likely to take them back) and JMC 757 redundancies are down from 55 to 17 and falling rapidly. Cougar have soaked up 10 rated guys and DHL are mopping up a large number.

Fly Star 20th February 2002 15:27

Refreshing thread to report a no event :

I had Jo K. a couple of days back. She said no change, nothing is happenning at the moment.

It was my useless contribution today !

Mr Bombastic 16th June 2002 22:00

Just come across your thread guys, even though it appears to have come to a halt.

It appears there's gonna be 14 75-rated guys @ CTC who will be interviewed by Britannia, and go thru' their selction towards the last week of June. It does appear that their recruiting is on the move, albeit with type-rated pilots being looked @ 1st.......but this does make more economic sense for the time being.

I'm sure it won't be too long before they start looking @ their own pool!......things can only get better!!!! :)


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