no job for the next 10 years
 

hello,
my forecast is no job for the next 10 years and there will be no shortage of pilots .
if you are in a JAA course or you want join a JAA school, keep your money and do something else.
I am a student at the university, I have a major in international economy and I want to warn you before you make a big mistake.
Good luck to the other pilots who are still waiting or looking for a flying job.:( :(

Come on Ronchonner, you know it'll get better soon :p

Poor-pilot (good handle methinks)

If you are going to post such gloom and doom please at least substantiate what you are saying, such sweeping statements without facts may well be the final straw for some budding Wannabe who may not take the chance and pursue their dream - would you really want that responsibility?

This whole business of making a decision whether or not to "Go for it" is difficult enough without poor posts like this. I'm sure you are well intentioned, but please, think about what you are typing.

Good luck for YOUR future.

TBL

Nope.

I agree it's an excellent plan. Logon to a Professional Pilots Bulletin Board. Find the wannabes section. Claim to be an economist. Tell all other wannabes not to compete. Immediately reduce the competition you face. More chance for you to get a job. Bish Bash Bosh...job done.

Here's one as well. I'm the President of the World Bank, I'm going to call in all BA's debts and bankrupt them. So if I were you I wouldn't apply to BA. Also, all those pilots in BA you should leave, especially those in the pool. And the same goes for virgin. And any pilots flying the 777 for any airline on good wages, I've always fancied a go on them ... oops might have blown my cover there :rolleyes:

And i believe that every Lamborghini Diablo will crash in the next week so all those drivers/owners should hand their keys over to me now...

If you are going to do something... do it properly. That is a pathetic wind up!!

DeeTee - you took the words right out of my my mouth.

Poor - pilot - We don't deserve posts like this on our forum. Its a good job there are plenty of us to shoot you down and keep the spirits of of everyone else. PPRuNe is a free site to those who don't contribute to the fund and a valuble resource and some people come along and just annoy us all. Obviously nothing better to do:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

So come on then, give us some reasons for your claims before I start linking all the pros for the market upturn. WWW is normally our guide when it comes to market recovery but at least he cuts us some slack!!!!

AF

Yeah agreed Dee-Tee, spot on.

P1ss Poor Pilot, in the words of the great Jim Royal......well, you all know !

We have a phrase in Oz that is very appropriate here.

"Come in spinner"
:rolleyes:

Better be unemployed while looking for your dreamjob (you live only once so better enjoy it!!) then be an economist and be miserable!! ;)

Is there no way we can ban him forever from this forum, his comments are getting very boreing and does not help anyone in the current climate of things. I can't believe how negative one person can be - and even worse, how he can spread this amongst the rest of the community and feel good about it!!

Away forever - i say...!

Cheers for now
Jamie

Hey! Didn't you guys read his post? This guy isn't some ordinary joe pilot, he's a student at the University!!! First year is it? Better pay attention cause he obviously knows his !!!!!

Haha

As an individual with an Economics based degree in the UK I have to firmly disagree, no surprise there then ;)

Go and Easy have just published figures for March and both have witnessed a substantial increase in passenger numbers.

The amount of individuals flying is on the increase.

Job cuts at present are from those airlines that are using out dated economic models, the days of price discrimination, excessive pricing for business travel etc are likely to be reduced or over as modern day businesses continue to compete and tighten belts.

The low costs seem to have got the economic model right at the moment for short haul travel, BA etc are slashing prices to compete on short haul routes.

The problem lies in Long haul travel and as of yet I don't believe that any airline has worked out the correct model to prosper and sustain growth, yes in good times the model works but in bad it crashes spectacularly. No doubt all are working overtime to crack the situation.

Charter and holiday airlines, follow more generally the economcy of the UK, recession and high unemployment results in less holidays and of course the opposite is true. Such airlines imo don't compete head on, it is a case of the travel companies entering into price wars, to get their business and then allocating holiday makers onto their airlines or onto contracted airlines for that company.

Sagey

10 YEARS!, where on earth did you get reasonable evidence to back that lot of Tripe???

One of the BA capts today was only saying that becuase BA have had to cut soo many jobs becuase of their lack of customers, they will have to start hiring soon becuase customer confidence is coming back.

You really think that for 10 years families are going to stay home for the school holidays, Business men/women will not make that Valueable trip , and sex crazed teens wont be hooping over to Ibiza, Oz, Malta.

Get a life and stop scaremongering.

Cheshire cat. EGHH

Nurse...........

Poor Pilots out of bed again.........

:rolleyes:

Sagey, I think you'll find that price discrimination is central to the low-cost model. Very few flights have every seat at the same, low advertised price!

hello,
I am sorry to not to give you better news for the futur in the aviation market.
I am a 4th year degree and I have chosen to write a paper on the economic situation in the airline market.
this downturn is based on several factors you know already, but when I ad the numbers, I can tell you there will be no shortage of pilots for the next 8-12 years.
Look at sabena, swissair, AOM...other airlines are going to kick out hundred of pilots.
I am really affected by this situation, but I do not want to lie.I am not a dreamer and if I had to pay a flight training, I would think twice before to do such mistake.
I suggest you before to pay a school, to look with an economist.

Lucifer I agree, can't remember exactly my point on price discrimination, think it related more to Business and First Class as a form of price discrimination that the low cost model. Yes when RyanAir etc say 99p a flight not all the seats are 99p lol, but at times with low costs airlines the more you pay the more you get (ie flexibility rather than have to travel back on certain flight).

Interesting to think whether one price for all seats would work, at least you would know how much the git sitting next to you pays ;)

Sagey

Poor-pilot, I hope your final papers aren't in english because if your predictions are as good as your spelling then they aren't very accurate. ;)

YOUR A F***KIN SPACE CADET, Trust me I added up the figures and it's now gospel truth. ;)

Poor-Pilot
Is that prediction based on passenger flying, cargo flying or both because I think most people only think of passenger flying. People are sending freight more and more by plane and there is all sorts of essential flying like medivac, which I don't really know how is doing. More and more companys are buying private jets after sept. 11. Security is tightening and people are bound to start flying again. :p