EFT actually have no aircraft as such. They have a wet lease agreement with another company. That's why a few people have mentioned about lack of flexibility with the programme(getting another slot if your first is canx due wx/tech etc).

Hope this helps

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eft are based within an american scool at
ft pierce apt..this school operates a fleet of be76 I think they have 7? and 6 C172.eft wet lease these a/c off this school and also use all of there facilities..they have their own maintenance hanger so everything is very efficient...as my previous replys I have said I did my fir course with eft with one other chap and we were both very happy with the school and we didnt have any problems with availability the a/c tended to be booked by eft all day..If anybody wants to email me with specific questions I will try to answer ..

Hi guys, I just could not resist poking my nose in here

On a completely different tack, have you had a look at their website? WOAH! Too much info on each page, graphics galore, too many colours, the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on (OH Sorry, just like the time it takes to load a new page from their website!).

This is a classic example of amateur website building.

On a different note, why is it that people in this industry just LOVE to give them self the title of CAPTAIN !!!! ???? :mad: If you mean the one in charge, we're ALL bl##dy captains! :rolleyes:

I am sure they are good pilots, but CAPTAIN? come on! You are a captain when you sit in the left seat with an F/O in the right.

Keep smilin :)

Captain JWF :rolleyes:

'EFT actually have no aircraft as such. They have a wet lease agreement with another company.'
Wot? -a Captain with no aircraft.
You have been warned.

Juswonnafly -

No such thing as too much info.......
The more the better!!!!! Secondly, they are a flight school, not web-site designers so good on them for publishing the web page. Thirdly, have you ever thought that the reason it takes so long to load the pages is because you're still using your Commodore 64?? Just a thought.
Hope I am not going on and on and on and on and on........

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On a completely different tack, have you had a look at their website? WOAH! Too much info on each page, graphics galore, too many colours, the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on (OH Sorry, just like the time it takes to load a new page from their website!).
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I have looked at every available web site for information on courses available for europeans in the USA and in my opinion EFT have the best web site with the most information available.This is saving me time and money on phone calls.
It is not unusual for a flight school to lease aircraft,and is probably a very sound
business judgement on the part of the management.
I like the idea of all the pilots wearing a uniform as this shows a professional attitude right from the start.I understand that the JAA require all examiners to display rank and use the title of captain.
Anybody that has an issue with this is obviously not taking the business of obtaining professional licenses seriously.

On another note it doesn't matter which company you choose over there. Make sure you have read all the Trevor Thom before getting there and aim to pass Met, Law, Tech and RT in the first week. The 3 week course are killers if you don't go there prepared.

The first week is relatively calm while you learn the basic skills. After that it can get very intensive. I somehow managed to do all my dual cross x's in one day and 2 solo's the day after. Then the night rating the night i did my xc qualifier. In hind sight i would refuse to do it now.
But saying that because i got it all out of the way. With the extra 4hrs instructional time i had to make up, I did spins for an hour, and the NASA tour which was great because we did the ILS at Space coast regional as well and flew back under the hood.

There is quite alot of pressure to get everything done in 3 weeks and if you have some bad weather days it can get very stressful if you don't have any time in hand.

MJ

We are very sensitive, here at Pprune, to any suggestion that any company might be advertising on the sly. We are also very sensitive to the legal situation vis-a-vis hearsay public criticism of any organisation or individual. Be very careful about naming people in this forum - if you do taht in a critical post, and you repaeat unsubstantiated criticism, you could be setting yourself (and Pprune) up for a charge of libel.
Incidentally, for the computationally illiterate, the speed of download from a website is determined by the speed of your modem and the ability of the web server to supply the data. As the maximum speed of download (unless you have a DSL or ISDN connection) is 56kb/sec, whether you have a P4 1.7Ghz PC or a Commodore 64 is largely irrelevant. So, if you run or own a website with lots of graphics and photos, it'll be slow for all your visitors, not just the ones with old kit. That's why Pprune has few pictures; yet we are still limited by the capacity of the server to pass the data when there are lots of visitors.

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mad_jock

Have you actually been to this school and done the course there. It seems to be implied in your post, but I would like some clarification.

I would be most greatful if you could email me at
socrates@@pilot.pprune.com

Very many thanks

Socs

yep got my license last september

MJ

Hi Dudes

Just returned to this thread.....I was having a lighthearted dig in my last posting (hence the use of smilies) however I will refer to one or two points raised.

I am all for plenty of info on web sites but if the front (or any other) page is too slow to load there is a good chance that the reader will become frustrated and move on. It is better to separate the fine detail and place it on many separate link pages thus allowing the reader to visit the page of their choice.

Regarding the matter of uniform I am certainly in favour of this but I am still not convinced that we all need to be 'Captains'

As to the matter of 'accelerated' training in Florida I would suggest getting as much done on the writtens as possible before going out there. Also give yourself 4 weeks if you can as the workload is very high indeed.

Lastly, nevermind a C64, what is wrong with a 1k Sinclair? :rolleyes: (oops, showing my age).

JWF :)

Was the Sinclair the groovy one with the rubber keyboard?????

A friend of mine had a guy on the jump seat the other day he was on his way to do his JAA PPL at EFT he promised to give a first hand acount on pprune when he has finished.

Over to you Hairyair.

I have decided to on EFT for my FI(R)
I will let ppruners know how it goes.

goodluck rogerdodger...you will find it a great course,,watch out for the thunderstorms.look forward to hearing how you got on,,

MJ - You were at EFT in sept last year????? I didnt think it had started up then! Is this the school run by Trevor Bracston and Ben Woods?

I was making a general comment about learning to fly in the states. I had the pleasure of OBA's teaching experence.

I was only trying to get across that it is important to study before going out there because suddenly you can be faced with flying 6-7 hours a day which isn't the best if your fighting your way through 6 subjects.There were a bit to many people for my liking learning just the confuser and i doudt very much they actually understood some of the content. And i think that this comment is just as valid with EFT's 3 week course as it is with OBA's

Sorry for causing confusion.

MJ

MJ,
The points that you have raised regarding a 3 weeks course of PPL training are very valid, EFT only offers a 4 week JAA PPL for those very reasons.
Best regards Ben Wood

I stand corrected sir. But would you agree it is still a good idea for the 4 week course as well?

BTW i work in IT and your web site is as slow as cancer. I am running ISDN with both channels and it still takes ages. Anything which has a picture background just eats bandwidth and its exp in relation to resolution. Basically if anyone in europe goes near your site after 11:00GMT when the transatlantic wan fills up are going to miss most of your hard work because they will get fed up waiting for it to download.

These comments are meant as constructive feedback of the technical aspects of the web page. And in no way critises the content.(which i haven't read because it takes too long to down load)
You could try relocating the web provider to europe based or remove some of the graphics.

MJ

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Hi Guys,

What I found whilst undertaking my PPL out in the States is that it is so much nicer, easier, and more beneficial to complete the exams and pre-training prep a back in the UK:

This are few of the reasons i found:

Flying and studying is too stressfull and you will not learn as fast and fully if you do them both together.

You will enjoy the flying more

You will understand all the theory properly

You can relax between flight as oppsed to run around the books, and flying and other activities.

These are just my experiences, others may find it they can cope with it. I could cope with it but it would have been nicer to have done the exams before. Also 3-4 weeks is still cutting it fine..think of weather, technical probs and other things and it shall easily become 5 - 6 weeks!!

AMS