I wonder how she'd feel about it if we gave her a link to this thread!

Pretty good I'd imagine

Statement may not be accurate

Well done Oveur :ok:

I couldn't use skype, msn etc coz she was not online.

Italian, fiesty then?

Yes we all get tooshie struck sometimes but just remember, its only the size of a spaniel's ear but it has brought down governments, and will do so again, many times!!!!:{

She wasn't online? All the more reason to dump the cave woman then!

Actually, Skype has an option for working with land lines as well, but the three hour calls are the real issue, more so than what they cost!

bit of a curve ball this one. I had similar problem with my missus. What it came down to was that she cared about us so much that she was so afraid that the situation would split us up. When it came down to it she really didn't want me to quit, in the longterm she reall wanted me to succeed and chase my dream it just didnt come across that way at the begining. She just needed some reassurance and also some support for her. Everyone has different circumstances, this is just another perspective.

Good luck with your training mate, I know you will not regret it :D

Well done Oveur. You won't regret it and like a post above so rightly says, women do need some reassurance and support when it comes down to it so bear that in mind but at the same time don't let compassion turn into weakness! :E

Perhaps we should start somesort of forum for the WAG widows. They can all ahve a chat about their insecurities and face them together. Is this a good idea or asking for trouble? :ugh:

CS :ok:

Having a WAG forum on here is the very definition of asking for trouble :=

Thought so. :)

Oveur

I was in an identical situation to you, girlfriend of 3 years. I had a lame job and wanted something more.

I was on the CTC scheme and went to NZ for the best part of a year. Granted she cheated on me while I was away, which wasnt great and we then broke up but I'm now with the most amazing girl, flying planes and overwhelmingly happy. I shudder to think what would have happened if I hadn't gone.

If you don't do this flying course I'm going to come round to your house, pack your things, put you in a bag and force you to do it. I'm not joking. You will only regret it. Imagine if this girl leaves you 6 months down the line after you've sacrificed your dream? Not worth considering.

Are you sure it's cake he's eating?

And Glad to see you sorted it! :D
now good luck! and wish me luck that me and my girl will last long distance..

Yeah I hope me and my mrs survive the 3 months apart.

**** me its like an episode of Jeremy Kyle in here!

Im off to join the Loose Women at lunch time!

CS :ok:

Job done lads. Lets move onto more pressing issues like Football (or soccer for the Americans) :ok:

Yes after all this mushy talk I feel like doing something manly....

I'm off to hunt something and make fire!

CS :)

Just thought i would put my two pence in, as a girl - you have to remember she gave the ultimatum once so there is nothing stopping her doing it again... I know you are only at the beginning - but say you get your dream LHS with the dream airline - whats to stop her turning round and doing the whole "its either me or the airline".....

Fair enough you have sorted it out already - but just remember, old arguments never fully go away with girls.....

/devils advocate mode......

(dont take any notice if the post isnt welcome):ok:

12/18 months isn't a long time when compared to the rest of your life! :ok:

Follow your dreams!

Smith:

There's no smoke without fire eh Keith?


Cryptic I know..... Prize to the first person who works my reply out!!!

Now there is a refreshing bit of sense. Always good to hear a girls point of view. Thanks :ok:

Oveur

Mate if your gonna get on this game then you need to include a few other pressing issues.....like BEER...BEER, stewardessess and oh eeeerr BEER plus in there somewhere BEER:E

ecampbell

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What is it with you women and the above......its scary. My missus still brings up stuff i forgot in about 3 seconds from 20 years ago.

Mustfly

I thought it was the female velcro patch. Maybe im not looking at the right porn sites;)

Pyro Tek

Your worse than mustflywillfly;):cool:;)

Its a quality girls never seem to understand either - we tend to use it as backup for ammunition in arguments.....They know you have forgotten it but they will remind you forever....:rolleyes: Things come round from years back and I think its all to do with insecurities... :ugh:

I, personally, cannot understand girls that do this as I tend to be one of those girls who sits and thinks about it - talks rationally about it and then forgets about it!! Luckily my boyfriend and i have the same attitude towards my plans for becoming a pilot (deal with it all as it comes and never plan too much in advance!!) so all is gravy in my camp.

Oveur i am glad that you think so, I thought the discussion needed female input - I would be devastated if my boyfriend turned round and said that to me - however, I would have to say (in the words of Nick Frost and Simon Pegg) Jog Off!

Oh, and i forgot to congratulate you for getting accepted onto the JPP.....:ok:

Dear oh dear, this kind of ultimatum is uncalled for. Not only is this path of action short sighted by your girlfriend but also selfish in it's nature. We would all like to have the convienences and guarantees of life but alas the further up the career mountain you wish to climb the more tired your legs are going to become along with an increased risk. Perhaps you're girlfiend can't handle this which is a pity especially after 3 years, there should be more lattitude to a relationship. I would understand these comments from someone you've just met but with water under the bridge she should be far more supportive.

There are numerous careers other than aviation where extensive travel would be required and/or longer working hours. How would your girlfriend handle that, this is the day and age of the mobile/flexible workforce ... something she has to address. If it's a decision between her and the training then go for the training becauise as someone has already alluded to earlier on this is a career for life and girls simply come and go. Would you like to definately give up the career option and against her probability of staying with you? Not an equal nor fair deal I suspect. As a qualified pilot you'll have your training, possibly a good job flying around and thus a good base to settle down in life. Alternatively with your girlfriend you'll have to start all over again in another industry of her choosing and you'll constantly long to be skywards. One day when things aren't so rosey anymore between you and the missus you'll argue then split and go on to blame her for having wasted your time and opportunity whilst still ending up where you are today but with a few years wasted and perhaps stuck in a dull pointless job in some office working for David Brent.

The choice is always yours thus think about your future which is guaranteed to be with you rather than your girlfriend. Jobs are hard to come by in this day and age and even more so for the foreseeable future, taking the prized job as a pilot you'd be foolish to turn it down especially as a semi sponsored student or whatever they call it these days.... :ok:

BTW the above works in both directions so it's no different if you're a hard working lass with a boyfriend/husband who's a drag :ok:

eCampbell & Oveur - It is very pleasing to hear some common sense out of a couple of women who obviously understand the industry a damn sight better than all of our lovely WAGS put together! Now, how much would you charge per hour to impart some of this common sense onto them or are most of the women that we are all talking about irrational monsters that cannot be tamed??? :E

CS :ok:

Yup, mines is most certainly irrational!:}

hahaha, mine too apart from at X-Mas, Valentine's day and near her Birthday. Wonder why .....:hmm:

Believe me, I would love- LOVE- to make some women see sense, but I think to understand someones ambitions/dreams, you have to have some yourself (no offence to anyone there).... especially in this industry....the ones that dont understand the passion (and im talking about flying here) will never understand it fully!! (you have to make those girls see that its better than their shoes, hair makeup etc. - all the stereotypes!!)

Oh, and i wouldnt charge, it is - after all - common sense :)

Good idea, but I tried that long ago when comparing my love of football and it didnt work :ugh:

Girls dont respond that well to football comparisons!!! Find something she loves and compare to that - it might work!!

The essence of the relationship thing is communication. I'm married to a pilot and I go away for 6 day tours. (Just like Gone Till November)

While flying training is pretty intense and takes up a lot of time, you must also remember that you do need down time and you'll need to give her some quality time too. Send emails/letters while you're away.

Get a diary and make sure you remember significant events like birthdays etc.
A woman can tolerate most things but forgetting birthdays etc is not good. (I realise that my hubby's not really good at things like that so I remind him. Sure, it's cheating but it works. :D

Girlfriends and wives also need to appreciate that blokes need bloke time. Deny them this and they'll get really crabby and resentful. Blokes need to do stuff that involves beer, round leather balls, or oval looking balls, things with engines and noise.

haha
 

i replied her 'IT'S PILOT!!!' all 3 times she asked me to choose between her and pilot.:E

she agreed after a 2 hours discussion (damn god it seemed 2 days:\) and till today she is very supportive.:O:O:O

(and now sometimes i love to use the fake 'oh darling i can stop my aviation career for you':hmm:.... knowing that she would thrust to me " NO its your dream so it's OURS my love!!!"):E:E:E:E:E:E

Follow your dream and don't let anyone hold you back. She should be supporting you! (also did you try comparing to clothes because they're at the top of any girl's list...)

an old arabian proverb:- "once you drop the chalice, no matter how well you glue it back together, the cracks will still be underneath."

In my opinion she has dropped her chalice, she is always going to be insecure. If you take an interest in anything that slightly diverts your attention away from your femme, they don't like it, .......well in my experience anyway. Remember telling a gf I was going to watch a footy match on a Saturday. She never said anything but you could tell she wasn't happy. I fear that ms oveur is telling you everything is fine when in fact she's hurt that a year apart doesn't phase you but is everything to her.

The ideal girl is the one that says "go to the pub honey" and actually means it, not just says it, and its not thrown in your face three years later. If Carlsberg made girlfriends............

Ecampbell,

If it's common sense, why is there so little of it around?

Case closed. Charge 'em!

Thankfully I have one of those !!!. If I want to go away with my mates or on a boys night out, I just tell her I'm going, and vice versa. No arguments, no moods, no getting sh!tty, it's great - keep telling her if she doesn't like it, she can always find someone else - and after almost 11 years she is still here.

You have to get them housed trained when the relationship is still young. Get things laid out right at the start, then they know where they stand from the beginning.

:ok:

Just want to throw my 2 cents in...

Bit of insecurity and nerves are natural for a girl who's dating a guy who enters the industry, but ultimatums? WTF???????

Had the same scenario. A girlfriend who put on a supportive face all the way through the training but deep down was always sniping and bitching, and (luckily for me) dumped me 10 days before I started for a jet operater in RHS...

And now the happiest guy alive, flying jets for a living, seeing different country's every day, earning reasonably good money and never short of a date (or 2... or 3...).

Never accept the fact you are flying as an excuse for manipualtive, jealous or controlling behaviour from a girl you are dating, it as a complete recipe for disaster, find a great girl who loves you and loves what you do!

Lola83, eCampbell & Oveur - Were you guys in a previous life or are you the next Carlsberg advert waiting to happen???

What many women don't understand is that the more they try to control and smother their fella the more likely he is to bugger off with a trolley dolley!

Nightmare!!!

CS :)

Chris

I have seen many a mate or should i say ex-mate get pussy whipped by a woman with quite clearly bigger balls than they have and totally controlled. To the point where they cant even go for a pint with the lads in a boozer a the end of thier road.:ugh::mad::ugh::confused:

The "modern metro sexual man " is doing it's best to be a woman but subservient with it.

Redsnail is what more women should be like where she wants a man to be a man and wouldnt have any respect for some of the spineless jelly fishes that mistakenly call themselves men.

I remember once i was going out on a lads weekend and my bank account wasnt talking to me so the missus said here's my credit card, foxtrot oscar and DONT come back without a hang over.....thats why weve been togeher for 19 years and even though we've lived in different countries for our respective jobs for years our relationship is stronger than ever. But i suppose i just got lucky.

Viva la femme's like lola, ecampbell and redsnail:ok:

ps redsnail how was your sarny....was it scooby doo sized?

Gotta ask Smith, how come ever girl you take up with is clingy? Does something about them attract you initially? There are plenty of non-clingy women out there.

Gosh. A awful lot of this comes over as very teenage, very misogynist. There is very little here about empathy or relationships as partnerships. Sadly much of it sadly reads like a war where the two participants are trying to beat each other to a pulp.

GTN,

It was enormous. If it was catering, the jet would list to one side!! :ooh: