SR yes, he does use American terminology. Airlines in Europe do not 'furlough' pilots - they sack them!

There are several operators in Europe (including UK) that have gone bust or seriously contracted in the last year. Many pilots have thus been forced back into the market. Some of them, for a variety of circumstantial reasons, may struggle to get further employment. It is not at all unusual to come across experienced pilots who are unemployed - ask the BALPA Employment Service. The market is better (in UK, but not necessarily elsewhere) than it has been for several years, but this is a notoriously insecure profession.

Scroggs

Message to Piperindian
 

Friend, here's food for thought. I was like you a few months ago but.... here it is....

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
--Calvin Coolidge, 30th President of the United States, 1932

Go get a furlough, R & R, re-group and try again.....

Goodluck

Deltasix

Funny that ! :rolleyes:

Seems to me a goodly number of you are getting stuck into this guy for saying something you would rather not contemplate.

Sounds rather like confirmation bias to me.

The fact of the matter is that flying is a highly risky career option: Huge up front costs (don't forget to account for your lost income during training), uncertain employment prospects, worsening T&Cs not to mention the teenie little snag of the depletion of oil reserves.

You guys need to take off your rose tinted spectacles.

CPB

Why? I love the view through them.
Especially the new framed version by 'Ray Ban.' I hear the 'Aviator' style (you know, like Top Gun) are coming back into fashion ;)

It's especially hilarious when you have to do the same exams for a helicopter licence! :ugh:

Cheers

Whirls

I am not getting stuck into this guy, My uncle knows of two people (who are a couple infact) that loved flying one was an officer worker like myself the other a plumber/leccy (one or the other).

They both had their PPL's for 2 years before deciding to go for their full ticket for the big birds, They have both landed ailine jobs :) ... this was about 10 years ago mind.

They took the risk and I'm sure they don't regret it.

I'll take the risk too, I am not stupid and I'll look at the big picture before spending my money but from what I have learned on here it's not as easy as just passing the exams and BA will come running toward you with 777 begging you to fly them.

As I said in a previous post as long as I am flying I am happy to earn the same as I was in the office. If I can get £25k+ pa flying then I am happy.

I don't thin there are people looking through their rose tinted spectacles here. We all know the risks but I am happy to take that risk and look back knowing I gave it my best shot! If I don't make it ... Then I'll make use of my qualifications and become a FI on weekends or even full time ;)

I don't drink/smoke/take drugs and I'll spend my money on Training and more training :ok:

Andrew

I refer you all to this thread. Read it carefully.

Scroggs

A litttle earlier ppruner's mentioned that as many as 50% were unemployable, can anyone ellaborate on that...?

I'm no HR person and have little knowledge of their 'inner workings' within any industry let alone the aviation one. What is it that makes them unemployable by simply glancing at their CV, I must admit I'd be intrigued to know. Does it differ substantially from one airline/operator to another or is it along the same generic lines throughout the industry?

Right. So everybody thinks that in a few generations global aviation will vanish, and we'll all be crossing the pond on Titanic again? No more pilots anymore huh? So who'll be flying in the next few generations? A rich, well funded elite? Thats not what aviation is about. That seems to be the gist of the gloom n' doomers here.

Well, what if I want to fly because I love it? It doesnt have to be an A380 (although thats what I'd be aiming for), at the end of the day, I'm satisfied flying bits and bobs on a Caravan to and fro, or any other type of aerial work. I dont care. I WANT TO FLY!!! I look up to people like Lindbergh, the Wright bros, Louis Bleriot, Yeager. People who had a dream and a love. They inspired generations. They churned out generations of aviators. If you want the flashy airline job and nothing else, you're in it for the looks.

I salute your passion for your chosen career will, but mate, trust me - you will care when the loan repayments are due! Hate to be a wet blanket, but eyes open and all that. That thread Scroggs gave a link to is an entertaining read, I recommend it!

All the best:ok:

listen, you think you are smarter than piperindian and his warnings, so why don't you take the first airline job on an airbus, and stop to moan!
if you are here on this forum, it is simply because you have NO JOB and NOBODY is interested by your ridiculous blue cpl license.
stop to dream and get yourself a real job with a real pay like at mac donald...you can send thousand of CV for a pilot job, you will get ONLY rejection letters IN RETURN, and it has nothing to do with your attitude.
At mac donald you can become a assistant chief manager and even get a burger for free once a while.

THEY DO NOT WANT YOU( ME)!!!SO STOP TO HARASS AIRLINES WHO DO NOT WANT YOU AND WHO WILL NEVER HIRE YOU! :{

Please don't flame me!

HAHAHA Classic A320rider...Brilliant!:ok:

Got to agree, it is a ridiculous blue...

What are you talking about?!? After all the blood, sweat and tears...Its the most beautiful shade of blue I ever saw in my life!;) :p