GECAT
 

Hi all

I did a search but couldnt find anything specific to Gecat.

I was just wondering if anyone has been and done a type rating there?

1) What are they like as a training provider?
2) Do they really try hard to get you employment after completing the
course?
3) Are you working for an airline now? which airline?


Many thanks

Foil

spoke to them and they said they are no longer taking self sponsored students.
If they do in the future it will be through OAT, Cabair.

Hmmm?

It just so happens that I spoke to GECAT yesterday ( the 27th ) and the line I received was that they had closed the lists for the time being but, I was encouraged to complete the on-line application form? The question dodging lady I spoke to would only say that the next courses to recent applicant would begin toward the "end of summer".

Of course the on-line form doesn't work any more and that is all the sense you will get out of them. I can say that a friend of mine recently completed the A320 course with them and said nothing but good things about the training levels? I guess it just takes a little longer to get to the professionals within the organization!:*

[quote=Wingman42]Hmmm?

It just so happens that I spoke to GECAT yesterday ( the 27th ) and the line I received was that they had closed the lists for the time being but, I was encouraged to complete the on-line application form? The question dodging lady I spoke to would only say that the next courses to recent applicant would begin toward the "end of summer".

Of course the on-line form doesn't work any more and that is all the sense you will get out of them. I can say that a friend of mine recently completed the A320 course with them and said nothing but good things about the training levels? I guess it just takes a little longer to get to the professionals within the organization!:*

First time post there ladies and gents! Sorry you got it twice!!?

How come they will be doing thier recruitment via OAT/CCAT?

I think they take preference to Cabair and OAT students first.
Same old story.

The only reason for a preference for Oxford/Cabair etc. I'm sure would be a direct result of what their growing number of partner airlines have asked for.

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Its beyond belief that you pay good money (and a premium) for an integrated course to try and get ahead and open a few doors only to find that someone wants to offer you the privilage of a Type Rating Course and the chance to cough up another 20K.

Please Stop paying. I hope the accountants who dream up these schemes choke on them one day!

GECAT
 

I've just visited the GE Website, and found reference to IAGO Solutions. I've done an extensive web search and alas no joy.

http://www.gecat.com/individual_testingtraining.asp

So the question is, has anyone used them? If so what were your experiences of the operation and how efficient/honest were they? What is their role? Are they just an administration middleman?

I would guess as they are pretty slick to be involved with an organisation such as GE, but just thought I'd check.

Astraeus SSTR
 

Hi all !

Has anybody done the SSTR with Astraeus recently, including the line training package? I'd just be interested to see whether it all happened on schedule and whether the candidates found jobs as a result. Regards, stanlystansted

stanley
 

I have not seen this yet...but im thinking its will be more money!!

So where are you from Stanly?? The Heathrow area??

TRs again - Astraeus vs GECAT
 

Anyone got a heads up on the TRs offered by these two companies re: quality of training, value for money, customer service and success rate post course. I would appreciate any real experience and advice others have gained crossing this mineflield.

Thanks

Neither are good value for money unless the airline is paying!!:}

answer
 

Can anybody give some useful information to the above question ? Has anybody been through either scheme ?

Cheers

Answers
 

Damn never thought of doing a search (NOT!). :hmm:

Anyway can anyone advise whether the Bond assessment is Pass or Fail ? Or do they just recommend that you continue with the Type Rating or not ? Also do Bond continue to offer employment opportunities once the rating is finished ? If so, who with (other than Astreaus) and is Astreaus currently recruiting. If they are for which Type ?

Thanks again and thanks for the excellent PM's.

BB

:=

oh my dear

Have you also tried the CTC ACQ scheme?

The CTC AQC will plus its £14 grand less :ok:

So,

There is something out there called AQC which allows fATPL holders with as little as 150 hours to get a job with an established airline and you "don't really know much about it"?

The selection tests costs £164 and the AQC costs around £6800 inc accommodation. If you get through the entire selection process including the AQC you are given a type rating, guaranteed 6 months of line training and you are highly likely to get a job at the end of it. Why wouldn't anyone explore this as a first option prior to spending massive amounts of money on a type rating with no line hours?

So far as saying the selection process is a tad more rigorous does that mean you don't believe you are good enough?

I'm sorry if you're in the firing line on this one but Craggenmore is correct. You should look at the CTC route and at least understand what it is they do. They will not put you on the AQC if they do not think you will pass it hence it could only cost you £164 if you really are not up to it.

SW

Topslide

You are mostly correct about the AQC. Apart from the fact that if the airline don't want you after the 6 months, CTC say they will place you with the next available airline. I believe the chances of getting a job are significantly higher on the CTC route. I am also told by someone who has done it that after the 6 months you go onto full FO pay and not a reduced salary (it's different for those that came straight from uni. ab-initio)

There is always the possibility that you could not make the grade and lose your £6.8k at any stage from the AQC, during the TR or during the line experience.

I realised the point of the original thread and suggest that stanleystansted and anyone else looking into a SSTR should look into CTC before committing to the SSTR route.

SW

Topside,

My point was.....Why spend 20k on a no job SSTR, when (if you pass, and who's to say you wouldn't,) you can spend £6.8k and get a guaranteed job. I deeply apologise for trying to stop people giving Bond £20,000 pounds for "nothing" in return. Put it this way, I'd rather fail having spent 6.8k than 20k!

As you say...SW...best of luck..! A little intelligence goes a long way in this industry ;-)

Of course you have to be under 34 for the CTC scheme, so that counts me and a lot of others out then:mad: :mad: :eek:

Agree with Antonio, most of the answers here assume that we meet the age criteria, I would given the opportunity go the CTC route, age is not on my side, the walking stick gives makes it hard to get into the cockpit !!!!!!

:ok:

Morning Stanley


Just making my way to Dublin to start the TR
I guess by the initial post that you are still un-descided whether to do the 737 TR or ATR. Having spoken to several people and some research it looks like the world will be crying out for "mature" first officers (like Us). So I guess what I am saying is

GO FOR IT!!

Stay in touch
Cornflake

GECAT
 

Hi everyone.

Has anyone recently or in the past done a type rating with GECAT, what were your experiences and and how easily did you gain airline employment?

I know a lot of guys from Oxford recently started the A320 with conditional contracts and wish good luck to them all but anyone done it without the conditional contract?

I am a fresh ATPL and seriously considering this option, I know that there can be a large risk involved but my problem is I love flying and I don't like waiting around after having done all this training and feeling I'm getting less current and getting no where. I know a lot of you feel the same but I don't really want this thread to enter a ' should I buy a type rating or not' argument.

Also how would this course compare to the Astraeus bond aviation course.

Any relevant replies would be much appreciated.

Best regards,

Mooneyboy:ok:

GECAT
 

There is some general consensus on here that GECAT are suggesting they a 'oversubscribed' when it comes to self funded TR training. It has been regarded that this could largely be due to the fact that they may only be interested in candidates that come recommended from a future employer or by a certain school in oxfordshire. Take this at face value if you want, but after two emails with no response from the organisation, I am starting to believe it!

I know this is a little off topic,

I have a place on the A320 TR starting in august and i was wondering if nyone knows how long it typically takes to gain employment through the GECAT holding pool once the TR is completed.

I did the APP at oxford and thats how i got a sim check and interview, and i get the impression most sself sponcored students there are from integrated courses.

Is it possible to get a 757 TR at GECAT?

yes it is, i have a handfull of friends who just did the 757TR, although that was for a specific airline

I am OAT mod grad so I went to them for a recent selection. Thanks for all the replies but anyone else know of success rates and experiences of GECAT SSTR? I think nearly everyone who goes there does eventually get a job just think the time varies.

Rgds

Mooneyboy:ok:

Does anyone have any specifics for the actual assessment? PM me if you prefer.

No Sponser, GECAT detail in 737-300 as follows,

Sim detail was out of Frankfurt. Follow the SID "RID 2C" to 4000', 45 degree turns left and right, pick up the SID again to intercept the inbound Direct Entry Hold at RID VOR, twice round coz RMI's packed up ( had to get engineers to sort it out) and was virtually right over top of Beacon, so round for proper Hold, which was fine. Then ILS to land 07R, remembered the thrust reversers and to stow them through 60kts?? The instructor asked me all sorts of questions during the detail, nothing too strange or startling, was I left or right of track, when was I due back to work etc. That was it, said he didn't think there would be a problem passing the course.:ok:

BR.

Is there anyone out there who has completed the 737 rating with GECAT in the past year but who has not found employment yet?

sr

any more info odf ctc?
 

Hi!!!
I am girl who apllyied for ctc programme.
I am only at the 2nd stage of my application and I really need info about the other step and if this is really convenient...
please if you have any info, or you know about specific questions..or tests they do...
thank you thank you

fly now: There is more than one thread specifically covering CTC Wings and the AQC. Try the search facility and type CTC Wings, (it requires more than three characters so won't produce any results if you just type CTC).

Failing this if you look further down the list under the Interviews, jobs & sponsorship - it is just a little further down the first page past this thread!

Good luck :ok:

Gator32 could you clear your message inbox.

Trying to pm you,

Mooneyboy

GECAT Easyjet - who can apply?
 

Hi, who is eligible to apply to the GECAT - Easyjet scheme, is it only Oxford grads or can anyone? If it is anyone, how do you go about applying, as there's nothing on the Easyjet website about it! I'm not an OAT gad by the way! Also i'm not interested in OAT bashers or any bashers in that case!!

Have a look at the GECAT website www.gecat.com

Seems to be bit of a backlog at GECAT at the moment, it took me two months to get a reply.

SR