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fatboyslimfast 4th April 2006 14:04

How old are current wanabees?
 
Hey guys

I know there are a lot of us out there.

im only 23, but i hear a lot of comments saying wanabees are the wrong side of 40, and even 30.

I will be completing my atpl training by september, and i hope like so many others to work for an airline.

Does the fact that im only 23 make me more appealing to airlines compared to someone who is "the wrong side of 40"

If this is the case, why is ageism such a problem if we have all paid for our own training

How old are you, and whats your experience?

captwannabe 4th April 2006 14:55

The govt. is bringing in anti-age discrimination legislation so it's good news for the golden oldies, but might make it a bit tougher for us young dreamers.

d2k73 4th April 2006 15:11

Im 18 and moving to florida in June to start my training so i should have a fATPL by the time I'm 19!

Martin4 4th April 2006 15:52

Age: 16 (17 in 2 months)

I'm in the process of getting 5 GCSE's which i plan to do in 2006 and early 2007. then mid 2007 start a modular course like multiflight JAA ab initio ATPL course which (depending on how long i took) would hopefully give me a f/ATPL by the time im 18/19 (not sure if there is any age restrictons on holding a f/atpl is there...?)

Thats assuming all goes to plan ofcourse

ultimatepro63 4th April 2006 16:01

im 13 and have to wait :mad: :mad: 6 or 7 years before i can start my training

Martin4 4th April 2006 17:23


Originally Posted by ultimatepro63
im 13 and have to wait :mad: :mad: 6 or 7 years before i can start my training

Try looking on the positive side, all the more time to save and do well in exams :ok:

RoyBoy20 4th April 2006 17:40

Hi

Im 18 and I started my training late last year at Oxford on the intergrated course. I should be finished by early next year, when i'll be 19. In my class there are twenty of us the average age is about 22.

Roy

flightman1000 4th April 2006 18:20

RoyBoy20,

How can you afford to do a course that costs in excess of £60000 at 18 years of age? You must have had a hell of a paper round!

ultimatepro63 4th April 2006 18:20


Originally Posted by Martin4
Try looking on the positive side, all the more time to save and do well in exams :ok:


True say ! :ok:

flyboyike 4th April 2006 21:19

I'm 30 and will be starting my CRJ type training next week.

wbryce 4th April 2006 21:32

20 year old! modular! been flying since I was 18.

Andy_R 4th April 2006 21:50

Exactly double the age of wbryce :ooh: :\

Studying the ATPL Theory the hard way - distance learning.

Have a PPL some 262 hours old, so at least I will have more hours than most when the dreaded tests are all over. Nor will I have to worry about having enough hours to take my CPL :rolleyes:

Oxeagle 4th April 2006 21:54

I'm 17 (18 in a month :D ) and i'm planning to start the ab initio (modular) course at Riverside in the US in October of this year, so with any luck fATPL before my 19th!

bjkeates 4th April 2006 22:08

21, finishing uni this year and just got on to CTC Wings to fulfil my lifelong dream... am absolutely over the moon. :)

hingey 4th April 2006 22:14

17, PPL, 70ish hours, about to finish A levels and start ATPL distance learning. Estimating the cost of hours building and exam times, hope to start CPL/IR in about 12 months, Hopefully all done by 19.

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birdlady 4th April 2006 22:20

Rachael,

Sometimes life experience can be overrated.....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: All this from a 25 year old........;) ;)

flyer_spotter 5th April 2006 06:24

Just turned 16 2 days ago ;)

David_Lid Air 5th April 2006 07:00

I am 22yrs old. Finished with the ATPL training, now working on SE IR (Soon completed) and after that CPL, ME IR + MCC.

I am finished at my flying school by the end of may. Starting the MCC course in August

the_aviator 5th April 2006 07:09

I am 26 years young and am starting an Integrated course at CABAIR in May. Can't wait! :}

bishop99 5th April 2006 07:41

Im 18, il be starting Oxford in Aug. But il be qualified when im 20 (hopefully)

All the best

Charlie Zulu 5th April 2006 07:45

28 years old, that changes in two weeks and two days.

However I've been flying since I was 20 and have an FAA CPL/IR. The hair won't be blonde for much longer if the final seven ATPL exams have their way...

Deano777 5th April 2006 12:02

33 next week :eek:

About to take Mod2 ATPL exams in 5 weeks, then off to do hr building & CPL/IR MCC etc etc

sicky 6th April 2006 00:47

i'm 20, 21 in October, and i'm busy trying to decide how to go about this, funding and choosing a FTO. :(

Lord Flashheart 6th April 2006 09:49

As captwannabe pointed out there is new legislation coming out to try and stop age discrimination. I don't think this will make any difference what so ever as it is so easy to discriminate. An airline are not going to turn round and say, sorry you didn't get the job cause you're too old. They'll simply say, there was someone better.

Being too young seems to have its dissadvantages too. I don't know if it is insurance problems, or the fact that airlines don't want some 18 year old walking out of the flightdeck, but getting employment with an airline under 21 seems difficult.

C-17 GLOBEMASTER III 8th April 2006 15:54

I'm no longer a wannabe! ha!

chrisdick 8th April 2006 17:09

I'm 24 i have a degree from Edinburgh University, a PPL with 90hrs, and i'm doing module 2 with Bristol GS in May, hope to have CPL/IR done by September :D :D

GrahamK123 8th April 2006 21:29

I'm 17 (18 later this month) got my PPL(A) about 3 weeks ago and have a place at CCAT to do the integrated course starting this September. I am also doing the assessment for OAT on the 19-20th this month.

c_jephcott 8th April 2006 22:05

22. And starting at OAT in August. :)

simonc15 9th April 2006 15:04

I'm 18 and planing to go to jerez at the end of the year:ok:

Leezyjet 9th April 2006 15:15

I've just turned 31. Treated myself to a PPL for my 30th. Now have 75 hours and a night rating. I'm slowly plodding through the ATPL's the hard way at the moment.

Will probably be another 18 months before I am holding a nice new (f) Atpl though.

I do however have 12 years experience working in the airlines on the ground and I am prepared to go anywhere and fly anything for my first job (which alot of people on here don't seem to be - they just want that 737/A320 job straight away :hmm: ) which I hope will set me apart from a younger 20something who might be younger but doesn't come armed with all the useful background knowledge gained by working on the ground.

:ok:

asuweb 9th April 2006 19:32

I'm 21. BEng in Computing & Electronics, PPL with 73 hours, started integrated training in January.

Jinkster 9th April 2006 22:42

I started flying with cadets at 13. Started PPL at 18/19. Groundschool at 19/20, CPL and IR, 20/21 and been looking for an airline job since.

Currently 23 - gonna be 30 by the time someone will employ me......so get in there as young as possible and then you have some leeway! :uhoh:

AnEviltwinEr 9th April 2006 23:00

15.
One year, and I can start on the PPL , if I want :)

Another Biggles 14th April 2006 16:25

Couldn't help but reply here. How're some of you at such a young age able to afford the training unless you are sponsored or on a course of some description that "pays" for your training (CTC)???

I really just don't bloody understand it - here I am about to go into my first graduate job and thinking about saving all those pennies for the future and here everyone seems to be able to afford it straight off with out working - how exactly??

Unless you get your parents to re-mortgage their house, which seems to me just a little foolish/unfair on them given the number of wannabes flooding the market at the moment. Everybody can't get a job at the same time, thus if you've borrow some huge sum and the grace-period is up, how are you going to go about repaying the sum with no job???

RIGHT - [RANT OVER]

Someone please, please enlighten me...

AB

Re-Heat 14th April 2006 22:20

Because some young people are not as risk averse as they should be, collateral in the form of parents' houses is used, and people with a lack of life experience are clouded too much by pure desire and passion.

None of which necessarily make for a good pilot - without testing and ensuring one is capable, all that money may go to waste.

Me? I am young, and though having always aimed to fly, have no desire to throw 60k on a bonfire without any guarantee of a job. Though would do the training with a sponsorship, I will ensure my fallback is doubly secure before making any move, and by then the sponsorships may even have arisen from the ashes.

I would strongly resent any suggestion that me not borrowing the money shows any lack of commitment. I know I could borrow it all tomorrow, and also have passed aptitude tests, hold a PPL, UAS hours etc, but as a qualified financial professional consider such an idea to be highly foolish.

Besides my current position will ensure that I employ every last one of you sometime soon...!

Fingersmac 15th April 2006 00:57

I'm 28 and currently enrolled in an aviation program at a college in Canada. Luckily for me the program is heavily subsidized which means I'm only responsible for two years of college tuition while the government picks up the flight training costs. The other perk of training through an accredited college is access to government student loans and bursaries. I'll graduate with a CPL and Float Endorsement. I'll have to get my MIFR seperately though.

Jumbo744 15th April 2006 01:54

I'm 22, 23 in September and I'm planning to start flying when i'll be 25 (got to make money first !!)

flz 15th April 2006 18:50

I am 29 with ICAO licence with 1200 hrs, converting it to JAR this year. Good luck everybody :)

NI-RYAN 15th April 2006 20:52

16 last week! I know its hard to become a pilot but I think I can do it.

"If you never have a dream, then how you ever going to have a dream come true?"

Dct_Bombi 16th April 2006 02:41

I dont see the confusion personally, anyone can work a job and earn or pocket at least 15>20 grand a year, even if it takes 2 jobs. Over a 2 or 3 year period your close enough to 60k. Yea if you have a family to support or business to fianance or a 4yr degree to complete its not the case, but for someone outta school or college or whatever who has the time to apply to nothing but work for the cash its quite feasible. I personally went through college worked part time jobs and full time jobs after college and it was my mid twenties before I could finance training but none the less I financed it outright without any loans, I have nothing against getting a complete loan but it wasnt for me. People do seem to get caught up with getting qualified asap and getting RHS in a jet etc etc but to be honest on my route I was the youngest even though I am in my late twenties.. which is still quite young in this game from what i have seen. Personally I have never encountered anyone under 25 training or working but thats not to say there is plenty of young lads/lassies out there doing it. Dont sink yourself deep in depth, work a few jobs whether it be on the ramp or office or whatever..and earn the cash and earn some experience. Maturity and life experience does count for something in some peoples eyes,, straight outta school and outta flight training college and barely into 20's has not been a sucessful route in my airline anyway.


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