Who are we all ???
 

I thought it would be interesting to find out a bit about my fellow wannabes....... age, home, stage of training, occupation, salary bracket, goals for the next 18 months etc. I'm curious to see how other people manage their flying training.

I'll start the ball rolling then :

Age 26
Live with g/f. Rent in surrey.
Training : PPL, night, 85 hours total, just started ATPL ground
Occupation : Finance
Salary level : 4 1: £0 - £15000
2: £15001- £20000
3: £20001-£25000
4: £25001- £30000
5: £30001 £35000
6: £35001 +

Where I think I'll be in 18 months : CPL, ATPL ground, instructor, very poor !!

Age 26
Live with g/f. Just bought a house.
Training : CPL/IR, frozen ATPL 310 TT current medical class 1 and IR
Occupation : IT
Salary level : 4 1: £0 - £15000

Where I think I'll be in 18 months : working in IT 2 years now.... and already gave up hope to become airline pilot someday.. so my guess in 18 months: still working in IT :D

Age 31
Live with partner. Mortgage
Training : PPL, IMC & Night 100TT
Occupation : Telecommunications
Salary level : 6

In 18 months: doing something else. Dependent on the market to determine what that something-else will be.

Age 26
Live with g/f. Rent in Kent.
Training : 10 more hours to get my PPL, planning to start ATPL distance learning in January
Occupation : IT
Salary level : 3
1: £0 - £15000
2: £15001- £20000
3: £20001-£25000
4: £25001- £30000
5: £30001 £35000
6: £35001 +

In 18 months: I don't want to think about it too much, usually I don't achieve my long term plans...just want to be closer to my goal....you know what it is of course...

Ok, here goes.

Age 27
Live on my own in a flat in Slough (mortgaged)
Training: PPL/night, 230 hours, 3/4 of the way through ATPL distance learning
Occupation: IT
Salary level: 6

In 18 months: I expect to have a CPL, and either have or be working towards either an IR or an Instructors rating. Will probably still be working in IT and flying whenever I can for fun, but there's always a chance I might be job-hunting for a flying job by then, especially if I decide to go down the instructor route. Also expect to be checked out on the Tiger Moth by then (plan to squeeze that one in next year some time), and may even have had a chance to get some formation flying training.

FFF
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Age 28
Live with fiance (renting).
1600 TT, 250 multi, UK and NZ FATPL's.
Air ambulance pilot (Seneca and Navajo a/c)
Salary : just under half of level 1, if you convert from New Zealand dollars :rolleyes:

18 months : Back in the UK, and filling a jet RHS ... so help me god!!

Age 25
Living with g/f Surrey
Training CPL/IR with ATPL subjects FI(R)
Very new Flying Instructor
Salary Level One

As an ex Hong Kong expat who lived there for 18 years Cathay Pacific is my ultimate goal. I hope when I obtain my 1000 hours to do a stint in Papua New Guinea for a year or so to build up some turbine hours

Age 33
Living with partner who owns own flat. Sold mine and used equity to help fund training.

Started training in Oct 2000 with 11 hours.
Did full time Modular and finished with 249hrs tt, Frozen ATPL.
That was Dec 2001. Spent about 60k in the process...
Returned to previous employer and took lower payed job while hunting for flying job

Current 13k p.a


In 18 months will be flying Cessna 172 Commercial VFR doing Aerial Photo and Survey. Trying to build more hours and keep the hand in.

Long shot on landing 1st RHS on any twin crew op.

Age 26.

G/f fell by the wayside few months ago after numerous outbursts of the "Oh! So flying comes first?" variety.

PPL, Night, 150 hours, Doing ATPL's.

Salary level 1

18 Months time: Will definitely have completed ATPL writtens, and CPL. Beyond that, I cannot say. I have offers of work (non flying) in America, Canada, France, Germany, Australia, and NZ so I may just go abroad earn some $'s and keep flying.

Waiting and seeing. Probably sums up how the rest of us feel here!

And if anyone was wondering, my answer to the question above....

Too ****ing right it does :D


Cheers,

Mt Hellier

Hi!

Here's my 2'pence worth

Age: 17
Live with sister (20) and dad (undisclosed lol). Dad helping out funding for my training...very lucky I know! Live in Yorkshire
Training : PPL, IMC, 124 hours total, just started ATPL ground....starting training next year, hopfully June/July...with LFS.
Occupation : Full time BGS distance learning
Salary level : 1 !!! easily 1 !!!

Where I want to be in 18mnths: Flying for a charter airline...767/757s :D

Where I think I'll be: On the same boat as you guys! still looking!

Here we go

Age 29
Married 1 newborn baby
Training;hold South African CPL/MULTI/IR,currently doing conversions and plodding through with groundschool at BGS,TT300hrs
Working fulltime aswell
Heavyily in debt

Age: 25
Live with parents. Wish I lived with g/f
Training: 90 hrs, studying ATPL exams full time.
Occupation: Nothing
Salary: None, zero, f*** all. Not even beer money.

18 months: RHS of big shiny jet; untill I wake up. Then crappy IT job, depressing middle class ****ty life. See Trainspotting poster for further details. Life eh?

Age: 37 (yeah I know ancient, but hoping maturity (!!!) an advantage one day
Living with g/f and 2 ankle biters in rented house
Training: 38 hours, approaching finishing PPL
Occupation: Running own business, working all hours godsend!
Salary : not as such, but profit approx level 5, shame I can't claim flying expenses against tax, it would be level 1 or less!!
In 18 months: would like to think I would have obtained CPL/ME, 150 hours, night and getting teeth into ATPL theory, modular route.
Hoping age won't blight any chance of progressing. Why is it in life that when you can earn opportunity , you are often too old to take advantage of it to the full.
Know I'd have to settle for not making it to LHS of 747 but happy to lower sights to eventual seat in 737 for regionals.

:rolleyes:

Hi All!
Age 44 (Ancient but young at heart)
With wife and two sons (14 and 11), she's in the UK
Ex Air Force Fighters (21 Years) Flying Jaguars, Hunters, Migs, QFI, FSL(QWI) also retired member of 9 ac formation aerobatic team. T/T 4500. Left Air Force and flying captain on ATR-72s. ICAO ALTP. Am in the process of completing JAR Theoretical Exams, and looking for a job world wide on Jets.
Some time soon hope to fly in an aerobatic team in my spare time.
I think I was born a bird without feathers!

Age 23

live at home with the parents. Minus point - away from the girlfriend. Plus point - Away from the girlfriend......?!?! No, i don't mean that of course....

Work as a trainee accountant in the City.

Salary? c£25,000.

Q. How am i going to afford training??
A. Own an investment property with nil mortgage and substantial value!!!! Oh, no intention of marriage nor reproduction yet.

Experience......2 hours TT with a class 1.

Where do i see myself? As far away from any office as possible! Hopefully a fully loaded cpl/atpl etc. No matter how hard i have to try, how far i have to travel, I will, i repeat, i will, get in that rhs.

Ps, for those of you who think i'm illiterate because of my non use of caps, well i'm not. My keyboard is f****d!!!!

Buzz C152, nice idea mate, I have enjoyed reading throught this , so I thought I would contribute.

Age 27

Live with parents due to the fact the bank account is funding pilot training and not currently fueling the bank and a mortgage!

Training PPL, with 140 hours TT, due to start ATPL ground school on Jan 6th 2003.

Occupation Retired Aerospace Engineer :D. Stopped working last February after saving enough cash and to pursue pilot training.

Salary Now in the skint bracket, but was in the No.4 bracket.

In 18 months I would like to be working as a professional pilot as would we all. I know a few people in the aerial photography business, so may be able to obatin some experience there. Would ultimately like to fly passenger jets and have experiance of short haul and long haul, and end by retiring then sharing my experiences and teaching fellow wanabees.

Edited for shoddy spelling :D.

I second that, nice idea!

AGE 20

LIVE With parents

TRAINING PPL 50hrs with Night Rating, 2nd stage ATPL

OCCUPATION Full time airline Pilot wannabe:)

SALARY Best not to mention it ;) (rhymes with Hero!)

IN 18 MONTHS First thing first, a frozen ATPL would be nice, anything after that would be superb! My dream would be to be sat in the right hand seat of either a A319 or 737-NG with a low cost airline (to learn my trade:) )

OK, here we go
AGE 20

LIVE with, ahem.. granny

TRAINING 200Hrs, CPL multi IFR currently working on instructor rating

OCCUPATION Dispatcher, NAV GS instructor as of next week

SALARY about $20000 CDN

In 18 months from now, hopefully back home in manchester, JAA fATPL and flying something with more than one engine......

Age: 22
Living: Back at home
Flying: CPL/MEIFR/ATPL theroy/1100hrs
Occupation: Deliver food to airplanes so others can go fly em and part time flier (not by choice)
Salary: hahahahahahaha, yeah right!

In 18 months, hopefully in a jet with a red tail or a nice biz jet from France.

Flying for Fun, if you want to keep that 6 in the salary column, you'd better go no further than doing it for fun!! :)

It's a shame that we all seem to broke :(

Age: 43 (with child like dreams and behaviour)

Just bought a house on the strength of my projected income from IT (oops)

1200 hrs TT 400 multi CPL/MEIR FI

Occupation: part time IT contract work (seems to be a common theme) Part time Flying Instructor. Part time Airtaxi/Corporate Flying

Salary : Yeah right! Some how I just seem to manage

In 18 months: still flying for a tenth of what I could earn elsewhere

Someone mentioned something about how we all seem to be broke? You are wrong. We fly for our dreams. We are wealthy. Just don't have much money that's all and who needs money in blue sky above the overcast?

OK, I'll throw my tuppence-worth in!

Age: 46

Home: still got one but given a few away.

History: Lots, well documented on this forum in the past. 10,000 TT. Currently A340 SFO.

Occupation: part-time airline pilot, part-time Pprune Moderator, full-time dad.

Salary: level 6.

18 months' time? Hopefully will have begun to understand Airbus' philosophy, probably just in time to go back to B747. Otherwise, hope not much else has changed!

AGE 29

LIVE with parents to say money :rolleyes: but hopefully with gf soon

TRAINING PPL(A) 51hrs, planning to start ATPL's in Jan

OCCUPATION Full time wannabe, temp job looker and hoping 'he who dares, wins' :rolleyes:

SALARY Used to be #6 but now 'el zippo' :(

IN 18 MONTHS Flying and getting paid, would love to be an airline pilot but would settle for having a fATPL and a 'fill in' job

Good luck to one and all...

AGE 29

LIVE with wife and baby.

TRAINING, CAA ATPL, JAA CPL/IR & FAA CPL/IR/MEP - 2300 Hrs.

OCCUPATION Full time MEP instructor for integrated school.

SALARY 40,000 Euros

IN 18 MONTHS I really hope to have a job with an airline, get my head down and work my way up as quick as possiable! 3 years now teaching, some great times, but would jump at a change!

For what it's worth...

Age 25 - 26 next February.

Married and living with spouse in own property.

Training : 2 Hours initial flight training with JAA Class 1 Med, struggling to obtain funding.

Occupation: IT

Salary: £20k.

In 18 months (God Willing) I would like to be comfortably finishing my CPL/IR and planning for my MCC training.

AGE: 29

LIVE: with parent, helps saving money. Plus, trying to be a flat in Edinburgh is a nightmare!

TRAINING: PPL(A) 15hrs, getting there....!

OCCUPATION: Deisgn Engineer

SALARY #4

IN 18 MONTHS: Finished PPL, got a Flat, bought a Ducati working towards CPL/IR.

Hope to see a few of you at the GatBash.

Fra:D

20
Was in the RAF cadets
About to sit my PPL Skills Test,
At University Studying Aero Engineering
Previous Salary £15k
Hope to join RAF / Complete ATPL :)

Nice idea, here goes

Age:25

Live: At home with parents. Almost all money being saved for doing ATPL's. Single (as result of "what she we do tonight honey?". "Think I stay in and learn about inductive and capacitive AC electric circuits")

Training : PPL(A) 69 hours, Class 1, about 1/3 of way through distance learning. OMG going to have to do some exams soon!

Occupation : Customer Service Agent, Low Cost Airline, Stansted

Salary: Was 5 when I was RN's top Fighter Controller, now 1 having given it all up to have the 1/1,000,000 chance of getting a job flying a jet.

In 18 months : Completed ATPLs, IR, MCC. Massive resurgence in airline job market, 737 RHS with a Ryan, Easy, Buzz, baby. In the real world - 18 months more experienced as a check in agent.

Age: 19

Live: Residential at school

Training: PPL/Night, 200Hrs TT, 1/2 way through ATPLS

Occupation: Full Time student

Salary: 0 at the moments. :(

18 Months: Hopefully in the right seat of something. Working on a few job ideas, hopefully the one I would like could come together when the training is done.

Some advice to the other wannabes. If you are half way through your training, start looking for work now. There is nothing better than getting feedback from a potential employer early. When you complete your training, they already have your name, know who you are and there may be a good chance of emplyment soon after completion of your training.

Cheers

BYB

Age 16
Live with mother, father and brother in bought house in Antwerp
Training : none, starting ATPL next september though, and gliding training this january
Occupation : school(science-math(8h)
Salary level : 1 <g> well isn't THAT obvious LOL
1: £0 - £15000
2: £15001- £20000
3: £20001-£25000
4: £25001- £30000
5: £30001 £35000
6: £35001 +
i'd like to see myself in 18 months passing all my ATPL theory exams
i think i'll not have too much trouble with it ;)
Cheers

AGE: 31

LIVE: with wife and 2yr old son, another on the way. Own home (mortgage).

TRAINING: 21HRS C150 on my way to eventual ATPL. Also doing Diploma of Aviation part-time (3yrs).

OCCUPATION: Full time Stability Chemist for pharmaceutical company.

SALARY: $50K (AUD) equivalent to 18K (GBP)

IN 18 MONTHS: CPL (or almost CPL), time available for training is the biggest problem.

:o)

Age 37
Live alone in own flat. 12 year old car, but quite nice, worthless motorbike.
Occupation: turb prop SFO.
Training: 2200 hours TT, froz ATPL (lacking about 5 hours night).
Salary level 3 , bottom end (including average duty pay). (Not factored for debts).

18 months: still be in the industry in some shape or form: probably a gibbering heap in the corner shape! Hopefully back in civilisation, South of The Porridge Curtain.

Age. 37
Live. In a house full of Aussies. :D
Training. Line training on the mighty Shorts 360. (I have 2 ATPL's)
Occupation. FO and night ops slave for a night freight company.
Salary. Not much. At this stage, group 1, hope to go to group 2 soon.
18 months time? Command or a bigger turboprop/jet FO.
I would love to work for FRA, Easy, bmi. Plus I want to live in Scotland.

Age 26
No house, no g/f
Training : PPL 90 hours total, thinking of doing IMC+night now
Occupation : IT
Salary level : 2-3
2: £15001- £20000
3: £20001-£25000

Figured out the only way I can go pro is to build time on a share, beg my employer to give me an extra week's unpaid hols in which I can do a CPL/ATPL DL course. By which time, I should have saved enough cash to take 3 months off and do a CPL+FI course. Once complete, I can then go back into my main line of work. FI job can be done over weekends since FI wages are so good :rolleyes:

Why? I can being doing with the hassle of being in debt, i.e. IR rating is beyond my borrowing limits.

Anyway, looking at the earnings and status of all these peeps same age as me, I appear to sadly lacking. Never mind "wannabe a pilot" - I "wannabe earning myself digs, g/f and more money". :D

But how? :eek:

Age. 32
Live. Own flat in Windsor.
Training. self abuse through OATS. Graduated Oct 2001
Occupation. IFA (still trying to remain current, and sending out a ton of cv's, networking, etc)
18 months time? Failing being paid to fly. Hopefully have my own Biz up and running, have a couple of employees and plenty of time to build up hours drilling holes in the sky. While there is no chance of getting a flying job, I might aswell earn s*#t loads of money! :D (oh yeah, got to pay for the wedding next year aswell! :rolleyes: :D Just thought, maybe she will be up for the 'Little White Chapel' in Vegas then I can get some hour building done at the same time?:cool: )
Salary. 6

BlueRobin Get as much training done as you can before getting a woman! Trust me! :rolleyes:

OK

Male
25 Just had CPL-IR Frozen ATPL Issued
Yes a JAR one! It is possible so don't give up!

Salary = ZERO :(
Living: Back with parents now :confused:
Occupation: Looking for an Occupation
Live in Surrey
Single
In Debt
Fully enjoyed Training

18months: Working for a small air operator somewhere on Earth! Anywhere will do;)

Name : Matthew Murray

Age : 16

Location : Scotland, UK

Training : None, as yet, 2hr in a C152/C172!

Occupation : Student

Salary : Non-existent

18 Months Time : Hoping to be entering the RAF, fly some big jets, hopefully! The leave when the industry is more RIPE, I am going to let the industry recover, and try and get a job with an charter airline!

Now I DO feel old and behind - great idea though...so here's my life

Age: 41 :p (well someone has to keep the averages up)
Living: W/ Partner (she earns more than me :D ) in own home, well owned by the bank really - we just squat
Flying: pre-PPL 38hrs
Occupation: IT
Salary: 6.
18 Months: Out of corporate drudge - whistling thru the ATPL - looking forward to gaining my rightful place :D in a booming airline industry - perhaps regional or corporate, based in the caribbean.......ow sorry got carried away :rolleyes: But can wish!!

22
fatpl
FI(R)
between £15000 and £30000 depending how hard i work
430 TT
live at home
on the brink of my first proper job!

Name : Bod

Age : 22 (23 nxt feb)

Location : Stockport, cheshire

Training : None yet!

Occupation : was student for last 2 years and owe loads of cash :( , got HND in Business IT, Tryna get an IT job so I can SAVE for PPL training and anything that might come after.

Salary : £10,000! :-O temping job/ MDEC royal mail :(( .

18 months : Will have a semi-boring IT job that will hopefully give me enough spare money for training for PPL :D