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Bleep 10th Oct 2002 11:40

Nutter.... yeah I was talking about the hand-eye co-ordination computer based tests. I'm sure someone posted about it in this thread, but I may have been wrong. I'm sure BAe do rely on them as a selection method for there FTO now days (tell me if I'm incorrect) so this seemed a sensible statement. I've never done group tasks before for assessment.... what are they like ? At least personality questionnaires are not too stressful ie. Nothing to calculate quickly etc.. just whip through them honestly and all is done. When I last went to BA they assured us personality tests are only used in conjunction with interview, and are not a barrier themselves to the next stage. Whether that's true or not is anybody's guess. By the way... how many people have been accepted without a PPL... wondering if I was the only low timer around here !!

Nutter16 10th Oct 2002 11:57

Im only guessing (obviously) but the group exercises could be anything from the BA "build something aesthetically pleasing and functional from this meccano set" to the standard sort of "your plane has crashed prioritise these 15 items to take with you" but I really have no idea!

I agree with you on the personality stuff, most say they use it to build a profile of you to assist with interviews and for the psychologist interview (if they do them). I think as long as you are honest and dont try and second guess answers theres nothing you can really do about it (unless that is you come out as a ragin psycho ;) )

For the stats I have also got a PPL (C152/PA28), completed off the back of a flying schol. many many years ago! I'm still low hours though (~60ish) Ive basically been doing enough hours to keep myself current! Looking at some other posts Im surprised I got through if they were looking for <30hrs!

Cheers,

N.

mbcxharm 10th Oct 2002 12:10

Bleep

I'm through to the next round with my paultry 5 hours (I must be close to being the most inexperienced...).

wolverhamptonlad 10th Oct 2002 12:11

I seem to recall as well that it was 10 being selected to go through to the final interview stage.
Just for the record - i've had my PPL for 15 months now and have been caning the hours this summer - up to 85 total time.

Good luck..

2BBA 10th Oct 2002 12:13

PPL, just under 100 hrs.

pa28biggles 10th Oct 2002 12:44

Just phoned HR, i passed the tests but wasn't in the top 50. Congratulations to those who got through, all the best of luck.

One day I will get there, be warned Britannia, I will be back, but next time with an fATPL...:cool:

Please can all those who have got through to the next stage quote their A Level subject/grades and Degree subject/grade if applicable.
Thank you for your time

wolverhamptonlad 10th Oct 2002 13:05

I know that I shouldn't really be thinking this far ahead but.. when are the final interviews? Does anyone know the dates? I've just been seconded to Germany for a week with work at the end of October and I have this horrible feeling that that's when they will be held.

Ta.

Ps. Got a 2.2 in Aero Engineering from Salford

timzsta 10th Oct 2002 23:13

Congratulations to those who have made it to the next stage and the best of luck. Unfortunately I didnt to well enough to join you.

Going to be too old for sponsorships probably by next year so I I will have to fund my training all at my own expense know.

Likewise Biggles - I will be back Britannia, and with a fATPL.

Good luck to everyone who makes to Jerez, and well done to the Brits for being the first to start a sponsorship after Sep 11 - you have given us all hope.

mbcxharm 11th Oct 2002 10:38

2nd round
 
So, 'appropriate casual clothing' for Monday/Tuesday...

Whaddya reckon guys/gals?

Bleep 11th Oct 2002 12:07

I was called to say Mon/Tue were cancelled... it's Thur & Fri now !?

wolverhamptonlad 11th Oct 2002 13:03

Just called them (14:00) and were told we were not expected to wear suits. What's everyone else doing? I think we'll look a bit daft clambering over dirty barrels (or whatever else they get us to do!) in smart suits. Think i'll go in trousers & Jumper.

Bleep... no mention about it being cancelled for the Monday.

Bleep 11th Oct 2002 13:45

Weird... I'm going Friday because they said they couldn't get rooms booked or something for my original day. Perhaps the original day was a Tuesday/Wednesday !? I'll probably be the only one there !!! I'm having trouble getting booked in to an optician to get an eye report by next week. I have a Class 1, but it has expired. Hopefully it will be sufficient though - it's not too far out of date. Bit worried too because I gained hours in an Air Squadron about 6 years ago and haven't got a log book :eek: Looks like I'll be wearing just a casual shirt and strides the, no sweaty suit !!

Bleep.

Nutter16 14th Oct 2002 06:35

Its OK, I'll be there Firday too!
 
Marvellous,

Got back from a weekend away last night, new suit in tow and then read the letter! :rolleyes: I now have no idea what to wear and I'll probably have to go shopping again to find something :D

I cant ever recall having an opticians report! Bleep do you know if they will accept aviation medicals?! (Ive got a current class 2 certificate)

See you on friday!

Bleep 14th Oct 2002 09:44

Well, I telephoned HR and explained that I'm having trouble getting booked in and visiting an optician within the week, but I do have a class 1 (expired though) and do not require spectacles, and she said this should be fine. The lady said if I get through this stage and they still require an optometrists report I should be able to submit it later (ie. next week). She said the main reason they asked was because several people have not got any flying experience and would have unlikely attended any medical before - therefore they have no indication whatsoever if they are likely to pass class 1 standards. I'm sure they would accept a class 2 because CAA will have your eye test results - you may be able to give CAA a call and ask if they can send you a copy, I'm going to call them myself today. Anyone else going on Friday 18th ?

expedite_climb 14th Oct 2002 09:56

Bleep, have you tried vision express ??? I got one with a few hours notice there a couple of years back...

Bleep 14th Oct 2002 19:13

expedite_climb,

Cheers.... got myself an appointment tomorrow. Is it me or is life a nightmare at the moment - trying to juggle being very busy at work, slacking off on the internet to find addresses of opticians etc...(and reading this), trying to book appointments/hotels, trying to think of yet another excuse as to why I want to take yet one more day off, worrying about affording it all !!! ;) Still... did it go okay today for those who went today ? Are there still not any PPRUNERS going on the 18th !?

Bleep.

Nutter16 15th Oct 2002 06:33

Sorry Bleep, dont know if you missed it but yes I'll be there on the 18th! (Im also glad to hear someone else is going to be there!!)

Still not sure about what to wear though, now that the new suit plan has been scuppered!

I think with the eye things I'm just going to take along my class 2 medical (it is current) so at least they'll know I can pass an eye test to that level!

See you on Friday

N.

Cambo 15th Oct 2002 10:22

Alrighty folks,

this is my first time on the site but I thought i'd leave a note to say that i'm through to the next Britannia stage as well. Im going down to Luton on Wed afternoon. They'd better not change it cos i've got my flights booked!

As far as i'm aware, it's a personality test and a couple of group things...as for what to wear, i'm as confused as everyone else...thought about going down reasonably smart but with some other stuff in a backpack.

Glad I found the site though, really helpful.

All the best to everyone,

C

Bleep 15th Oct 2002 10:30

Cambo... don't suppose you are the young lady who stayed in the Express Inn the day before aptitude testing !? If so, I may have shared the courtesy van with you. Probably write back and say you're a bloke now !! Appropriate clothing in my eyes is the cliche "Smart Casual". Shouldn't think they'd take too much notice - as said they're not expecting suits. I'm sure this stage is just to determine how well you interact and cooperate with others. They'll probably be more likely to judge appearance in the final interview. Right... I'm off to get my 'lamps' tested at the opticians.....

Good luck,

Bleep.

Cambo 15th Oct 2002 10:42

ahhh,

sorry to disapoint but i am indeed a bloke! I was down on Tuesday the 1st in the afternoon and my first name is Neil, so i might have met some of the people posting replies here...dunno though.

Cheers for the clothing suggestions, jumper and trousers it is then!

good luck to you too.

C


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