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TS17 19th Jan 2022 21:20

Generation EasyJet/CAE
 
I see CAE have opened their EasyJet MPL…

Mixed feelings!

OSDriver 20th Jan 2022 16:48

Easyjet is apparently planning on reaching 2019 levels of traffic this summer and start expanding from that. There will be a need for new cadets obviously to crew those planes.

PilotLZ 21st Jan 2022 05:43

What happened with those who had their training terminated when COVID came around? Have they all been placed with EZY so that new ones are needed?

portsharbourflyer 21st Jan 2022 11:04

Some of those mpls transferred to integrated ATPL. Some continued with an unbacked MPL. However Easy is now taking on the MPLs that were cut in the last 18 months. Those that continued with the mpl will find their gamble paid off. Most are starting in March.

Not sure if Easy are taking any of the tagged integrated cadets from CAE this march. An MPL course should take about 18 months to complete. So its 2 years until mpls are ready. Remember there is little risk to CAE the cadets still pay for the course and if there is no job at the end CAE still make their money.
Y6s

Aviationtrader 29th Jan 2022 00:14

Is anyone aware of if/when Easyjet will resume interviews for untagged CAE integrated cadets?

OSDriver 29th Jan 2022 06:27

Probably not anytime soon. Currently they’re taking in cadets from their previous programs. But they did offer the chance to register your interest in joining, at least for europe.

portsharbourflyer 29th Jan 2022 17:20

Aviationtrade, as far as I am aware to get into Easyjet as a cadet you have to be mpl or tagged integrated, I am not aware of any white tail integrated getting interviewed for Easy in recent years (I might be wrong).

I suspect Easyjet would not be too impressed with some of the events at CAE Oxford in 2020 and 2021. Infact I think Easyjet are the only ones that dont know the truth.

Those that know, know what I am referring to.

Aviationtrader 29th Jan 2022 20:01

Thanks for the prompt responses.

I know Easyjet still have ties with CAE and they've interviewed CAE untagged whitetails providing they've made certain criteria (number of exam retakes and attempts etc) over the past few years. Interviews were paused during early 2020. I guess time will tell if it'll resume again.

B61 30th Jan 2022 16:38

I thought CAE Oxford was effectively closed? The groundschool closed down in March 2021 with all the ground instructors sacked, and about 20+ FIs were kicked out afterwards. The main building is closed, and I understood is being demolished in the next few months.

The IR is done in Belgium (Antwerp?) and all that is left in Oxford are a couple of Seneca’s and 4 or 5 FIs to do the only course they do there, which is the 6 hours of the MEP course.

They would need those C182s to do the 85 hours flying required for an MPL, but not sure what happened to them. They have probably been shoved in a hangar and the engines have all corroded solid.

Aviationtrader 30th Jan 2022 19:23

As far as I am aware, ground school is now at Gatwick and flying phases are at taking place at Phoenix and/or Antwerp, MCC is still at Gatwick. New instructors and new contracts. Operation is still running just not as streamlined as it once was when based at Oxford. In regards to the aircraft and where each phase of the flying is being done, I have no idea.

Pre Covid, Easyjet had 3 inputs of cadets from CAE: Easyjet MPL, Easyjet-tagged ATPL and Whitetails interviewed during/post IR phase of their integrated course.

A320LGW 31st Jan 2022 16:46

Are easyJet recruiting direct entry non rated FOs or is it only rated FOs and cadets?


rj2208 31st Jan 2022 21:21

ATPL Integrated or MPL
 
Hello guys, not sure if someone call help out. I am stuck deciding if whether I should do MPL with easyJet or stick with normal ATPL. Any thoughts from anyone? I would be inclined to go for MPL however currently unsure on what the process entails to unlock MPL to full ATPL after 1500hrs- would this be done automatically? When applying for other airline, would I be applying as ATPL license holder?

portsharbourflyer 1st Feb 2022 11:48

An MPL when you meet the hours requirement and complete the ATPL skill test (raw data ILS during a LPC) becomes an ATPL the same.

An MPL more than likely put you straight into a job if it all goes smoothly, but if some one has a real interest flying I don't know why you would sign up for a 100k course that only has 70 to 80 real flying hours in it.

Alex Whittingham 1st Feb 2022 18:06

Its a gamble, the MPL can go badly wrong (see L3's behaviour) but when it works is a fast track to the RHS. Of course you pay for it, and it is jolly profitable for big ATOs who charge £100K for a course with only 70 to 80 flying hours and lots of sim time...

Denti 1st Feb 2022 18:27


Originally Posted by portsharbourflyer (Post 11178209)
An MPL when you meet the hours requirement and complete the ATPL skill test (raw data ILS during a LPC) becomes an ATPL the same.

An MPL more than likely put you straight into a job if it all goes smoothly, but if some one has a real interest flying I don't know why you would sign up for a 100k course that only has 70 to 80 real flying hours in it.

I would argue if one has a real interest in flying s/he joins the next gliding club. Commercial aviation is not the "pure" flying joy anyway. It is heavily regulated by both aviation regulations as well as internal rules and SOPs.

jb53 7th Feb 2022 11:25

Anyone heard about the starting salary for cadets following 110k MPL? 100k for 70/80 hours seems very steep to me!

Alelo 9th Feb 2022 16:21

Is there any reason why someone would decline the offer from generation easyJet and go to an independent ATO?

It’s obviously a personal choice on who you go to but would it really be a terrible idea to say no in the current climate?

portsharbourflyer 9th Feb 2022 19:30

If you can afford the 100k fee, and accept the fact Easy can pull the job offer at any point.

Modular plus type rating at Ryanair is still cheaper.

In fairness I suspect neither Easyjet or CAE montreal know about the misconduct at CAE Oxford.

rj2208 10th Feb 2022 14:58


Originally Posted by portsharbourflyer (Post 11182227)
If you can afford the 100k fee, and accept the fact Easy can pull the job offer at any point.

Modular plus type rating at Ryanair is still cheaper.

In fairness I suspect neither Easyjet or CAE montreal know about the misconduct at CAE Oxford.

what misconduct are you referring 2?

portsharbourflyer 10th Feb 2022 17:58

I don't believe I could disclose details under pprune posting rules as it would implicate certain individuals.


Funky Buddha 10th Mar 2022 08:14

Hi all,
I am curious to know if anyone else is applying or has applied for the Easyjet MPL course? I am through to the 2nd stage which is the aptitude and personality test and have my assessment next week (Remotely). Has anyone else completed this yet?

Alelo 10th Mar 2022 09:08

Applied and did it a couple of weeks ago.

Just did the stage 3 interview and waiting on the result of that.

the process was the okay and to be honest if you buy the symbiotics assessments the format is almost identical in the maths and physics questions although it’s a bit of a scam as they don’t tell you how you work out the answers and you buy 5 tests but they are all the same.

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jb53 11th Mar 2022 20:11

Completed stage 2 around a month ago, Didn't purchase any symbiotics assessments (seemed very expensive) or CAE material and in all honesty did very little preparation, it wasn't particularly challenging. What drained me the most was the FAST multi tasking exercise at the end.

Personality tests were as expected, I've answered questions like that hundreds of times before, nothing out of the ordinary.

Got an email the next day inviting me to stage 3. Completed that recently, thankfully all my preparation paid off and I received an email informing me I had been offered a place on the MPL course.

Funky Buddha 13th Mar 2022 16:57

Hi jb53, congratulations on being offered a place on the MPL course! That is fantastic news.
Regarding stage 2, I bought the ADAPT practice exams (As recommended) and was disappointed to realise that the practise exams for each module (Maths, Physics, Cognitive, FAST) are identical and you just get the chance to repeat them over and over again. Whilst I don't find that aspect very productive or helpful (Especially for the price) it has at least got me used to the format of the exams and what to expect.
A couple of questions (jb53 or Alelo):
Regarding stage 3, is the interview completed remotely? If not, where is it located? I assume there is a team building exercise too? Any information on Stage 3 would be very useful. Thank you!

TheHF 13th Mar 2022 19:25

Stage 3 Generation Easyjet
 
Hello everyone,

Could anyone who has already done the stage 3 for the Generation Easyjet share his experience with us eventually ? How long does the individual interview take ? What are the questions ? etc...

Thank you so much in advance !

edhelms 16th Mar 2022 17:09

First 2 stages are online?

Funky Buddha 20th Mar 2022 16:03

Good news. I have got through to Stage 3.
Stage 3 is virtual (Like Stage 2) and will involve a group activity and interview.
CAE have provided lots of useful information to explain the process within the invitation.
Any tips/advice from those who have already been through the process more than welcome! Thanks!

Juicy_Possum 21st Mar 2022 09:01

Did my stage 3 last Thursday, got an email the following morning to say I'd passed! Very excited, counting down the weeks until course starts!

Funky_Buddha and TheHF: yes stage 3 is remote. You get a presentation from easyJet (up to 1h), with more info about the course, easyJet etc. You then get split into groups of 6 for a group exercise (they assess up to 12 candidates per day, so two groups of 6). They did ask us not to give details of what the exercise we did was, but it's just an opportunity to demonstrate how you work in a group, and they're more interested in how you all do the exercise than what the end result is.

You then have an interview later in the day - mine was at 3pm so I had a fair gap after the group exercise to do some final prep. The interview will normally be 50-60 mins, and mine was with a current easyJet captain (so no bullsh*ting your way through like you might be able to with someone from HR). It was divided into two parts, motivation and competency. Motivation covers why you want to be a pilot for easyJet, your knowledge of the company, and the airline industry. Competency is mostly "Give an example of a time when you did xxxx".

For motivation, the only way to do that is plenty of prep. Make sure you know easyJet as a company well, and know what's going on in commercial aviation currently, that kind of stuff. For competency, have a look at the 8 pilot competencies (I can't post links but just google it). You can ignore 2,3, and 6 in the list as those are more for qualified pilots, and think of some examples from work/university/hobbies/etc that show you doing those things. They like specific examples, so have a think along those lines.

Good luck to those of you still to do your stage 3!

Dean Woods 22nd Mar 2022 13:24

Signing onto the course
 
Juicy_Possum;

Hey man, i did my stage 3 last Wednesday too. I passed also. I got an email from CAE saying what i need to do next and reply if I have any questions.

Well its been a week and I've had no reply and they aren't answering calls. Have you managed to speak to CAE much since finding out you had passed?

I still haven't even confirmed what date I'll be starting let alone receiving any documents etc...

Kind regards
Dean

Funky Buddha 23rd Mar 2022 17:26

Juicy_Possum: Thank you so much for taking the time to provide this information and congratulations on getting through. I hope to be there with you!
I have lots of preparation to do first though and I have a few weeks before my stage 3 assessment!
A couple of questions:
  • You mention that an Easyjet Captain was present during your interview. Was anyone else there on the video call? (e.g. from EasyJet HR, CAE or Symbiotics?)
  • Also, have CAE mentioned when the MPL program starts? I presume we will all start at the same time for the UK CAA course?

C29 3rd Apr 2022 10:42

Hey everyone ! Anyone got their stage 3 on the 27th of April ?

Maverick97 4th Apr 2022 14:27

So it looks like they’re hiring cadets who will join the line in approx 18-24 months time. I recall modular students who completed their MCC with CTC/ L3 (AQC course) pre-covid being offered interviews to then join EasyJet. However, CAE seem to have removed all of their modular flight training options from their website besides Oz. I’d be interested if a similar scheme/ process becomes available further down the line.

It’s good to see BA openly recognise Modular Students with their ‘Newly Qualified Pilot Pathway’.


Ali Makke 28th Apr 2022 19:19

hey am sorry to ask how long did it took to receive your stage 3 results.

Crusherrr 29th Apr 2022 09:22


Originally Posted by Ali Makke (Post 11222347)
hey am sorry to ask how long did it took to receive your stage 3 results.

I Got them the next morning

UncleBe 6th May 2022 14:14

Result of stage 3 5th May?
 
Does anyone got their result for stage 3 conducted on 5th May?

Contact Approach 6th May 2022 19:07

i feel desperately for those who graduated from this scheme prior to covid and remain unemployed. its just not right to reopen this when theres many the airline could take back in an instant. Proceed with extreme caution.

Funky Buddha 9th May 2022 08:15

Hi everyone,
I found out that I passed the stage 3 assessment and I have been notified that "a training advisor will be in touch shortly to discuss your next steps". (It took about 1.5 days for the result to come through via email after the assessment was completed)
I am over the moon right now although I realise this is just the start and there is a lot of hard work ahead!
I understand there are 3 course start dates this year: May, July and September. I would like to start in September but I believe this course is now full. Hopefully I don't have to wait until 2023.
For those that also got through, how long did it take before CAE began contacting you to "discuss your next steps"?

MikeKilo2 10th May 2022 10:25

Oh dear.. please do your research on this scheme. We were all dumped during the pandemic on a license that limits you to fly for one airline. The chaos that followed still hasn’t been cleaned up by those who caused it, yet recruitment has re-opened for fresh cadets.

Wasn’t the letter that circulated online asking for £185k to get out of the scheme enough to put anyone off. Please save your money, nobody needs to go through the financial stress that we did. Lessons need to be learnt.

Ale Tanti 10th May 2022 12:39


Originally Posted by UncleBe (Post 11226145)
Does anyone got their result for stage 3 conducted on 5th May?

I had the results yesterday, I passed. Looking forward for the start of the course.

Ale Tanti 10th May 2022 12:41

I have been contacted by the training advisor the same day the results came out


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