ATPL exams failure
 

Hi everybody,

I would like to share my story, it may helping some of you, also, it's helping me to release negative feelings.

I did pass 13 exams in 5 sittings (84.5% average), where I have failed Operational procedures at the 5th sitting at 71%. I let a gap of 6 weeks between my 5th and last sitting to work on this particular subject where I have reached an average mark of 94% on 795 questions from my school's QB.

So I used my 6th sitting to attempt it again, and unfortunately, I have failed again with a lower mark than the first attempt 68%, incredible.

You all know what it means... I have tried everything to make an appeal about questions (5 exactly) which the wording was for me uncertain and confusing (as same for my school's instructor), and for what I have no reason to doubt during my revisions (these 5 questions were about ditching and icing).

They have rejected my appeal, and I am desperately trying to get an oral hearing as it's allowed by the CAA's regulation. I have also reported my misunderstanding to the EASA level, if I can get something from them, who knows?..

I would like to know of some of you guys passed through the same experience and what were you deciding then, for me, I am ready to drop it at 90% if I don't have a positive outcome from the appeal, even if I already have my CPL IR/ME from a non EASA country (where I definitely cannot work). It so much **** since, I am dejected and angry, because I don't see what should I do more (and I am not just an QB hitter, for some guys who may potentially think that they are smarter than anyone else).

Have a good day everybody,
Cheers,

Matt

You need to pass the 14 exams within 6 sittings. That's quite clear. You haven't done so so I'm not sure complaining will do very much. You now either start again or choose something else to do. Getting an average mark of 94% on the BGS QB means absolutely nothing as far as the exams go.

Sorry if that sounds sharp and it's unfortunate that you didn't succeed but the standard is there for a reason.

CA

Sorry to hear your situation mate.
But imho, you cannot do nothing more stupid than dropping.
Time management is everything.
Take a break, think about it and start over. Try to complete the exams in 3 or 4 sittings.
Good luck!!
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Just a thought but you could consider resitting in Poland - that at least gives some flexibility about getting the subjects that you are ok at all done in a hurry ?

https://www.pprune.org/professional-...ish-caa-3.html

AustroControl
 

Matt,

Not a good outcome, inevitable you need to resit the exams , all over.

The comprehension of the questions , is part of the learning outcome, not just choosing the right answer.

Good luck with your appeals, but put your energy in to re-sitting the exams very soon.

Sorry to hear that, If it was me, I would retake all 14, perhaps trying to take 7 exams or so in a sitting.

About the questions, the first 2 I'm sorry but I think they are basic PPL stuff... (at least if you had a good PPL instructor!)

1- Gear up, flaps down. You want to take as slow as possible to take minimum damage, and the gear down could cause unwanted effects.
2- CONTROL THE AIRCRAFT!!!!!

Good luck!

I mean full flaps when you are sure you are going to reach the field where you decided to dich. If you are trying to reach a distant field/runway of course you should keep the aircraft clean in order to increase your gliding distance.

From skybary.aero:

Configuration - Gear. Gear up is the optimum configuration for ditching.
Configuration - Flap. Most manufacturers recommend the maximum deployment of available slats/flaps is desirable to minimise approach speed. However, judgement is required in this respect since an intermediate flap setting is likely to improve forward visibility and reduce the amount of rotation required to flare in return for some increase in airspeed. Without some or all engines functioning, there may be limited hydraulic power.

Cheers!

That does explain enough...how the hell you did not know this ??