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RTN11 15th Dec 2013 16:13


Currently, under the Departure and Arrival columns in my logbook I am entering the take off time and the landing time, then in the Total Time Of Flight column I am entering the time of flight plus 0.2 for taxi.
Surely if you're doing that then the time in the total column doesn't equal the arrival minus the departure time?

This sounds like an absolute mess.

If I were you I'd start again, the departure time is when you start moving on the ground with the intention of flight, not your take off time, and the arrival is when you park up and shut down, not when you land.

This is actually written in the instructions in the front of every logbook I have ever seen. I really don't see why people struggle.

P40Warhawk 16th Dec 2013 16:09

Level-D B737CL Hours
 
I don't want to start new topic, so I wanted to ask here what to do with hours on Level D B737CL. I maybe want to do every month 2 hours with my former classmate of training in this mentioned sim, just to keep our skills on a good level and being ready when the moment comes when we get an invitation for an assessment for a pilot job somewhere. We have our licenses already.
1 - Can we log these hours? Are the accountable for the TT?

2 - And how should we write that in the logbook?Those sessions we will be both PF and PM.

mad_jock 16th Dec 2013 16:27

They count for nothing in relation to total time.

There should be a sim section in your log book. Which you can record them in if you like, but they don't actually mean anything unless its for a license reason.

RTN11 16th Dec 2013 18:21

P40Warhawk - I wouldn't bother putting anything in your logbook.

Sim time like this won't count towards total or multi crew time for any useful purpose. Sim time is only really relevant if it's in the context of the issue or renewal of a rating, if you're just practising to keep it current then it's not worth logging, and will only add confusion later on.

If you do choose to log it, I would just log the lot as one block time, I generally don't put start/finish times for sim sessions, just total time, as the aircraft doesn't really have off block to on block, and you're constantly pausing and resetting the sim, which is obviously nothing like trying to record flight time in a real aircraft.

Artie Fufkin 16th Dec 2013 21:20

You should definitely log it and get it signed off by the sim instructor as proof.

As has been said, it will not count towards your total hours, however, it could end up being useful in other ways. One question that is almost certain to come up at an airline interview is "what have you done to keep current?". When I was in that situation, I got my stamped logbook out and showed 20 hours in a 737 sim (I got these for free as a "sit in" for an MCC to make up a pair for a lone student at my old FTO) to a hugely impressed looking chief pilot. I got the job.


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