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flying free.LEVC 31st Jan 2017 14:21

That video is amazing dunc 201.

Does anyone one know a good flight school to do time builiding near Los Angeles??. I need to build just under 90 hours towards my CPL.

Kind regards

Locarno 14th May 2017 13:51

Hey all,

I'm heading to Florida for my hour building in June and I've received my certificate of validation from the FAA for conversion of my UK EASA PPL to an FAA one. My understanding was that I now had to go to my FSDO (Orlando) with an appointment and to be issued with the temporary licence. However, I called them up asking for an appointment and the lady on the phone had no idea what I was asking for.

So what do I need to do?

Do I get a flight test with an international examiner THEN go to the FSDO? Or what exactly do I need to do from here to actually fly solo/PIC in Florida?

Thanks for all help!

EDIT: On a different note: What GoPro mounts are recommended to take videos and photos of the hour building? I see a lot of videos from behind the pilot seats looking out and I cannot think of any way to actually achieve this!

selfin 15th May 2017 14:22

Locarno,

The Orlando FSDO has farmed this job out to the local Designated Pilot Examiners. There's one at Jack Brown's in Winter Haven who charges about $50 for a twenty minute process of filling in forms. There is an FAA database of DPEs here. Use FAA office "SO15" for the Orlando FSDO region.

Prior to acting as pilot in command you must complete a flight review (14 CFR 61.56) with a US-certificated flight instructor. The short FAA guide for instructors, Conducting an Effective Flight Review, might be of interest. The instructor conducting the review will expect you to be acquainted with the flight rules in subpart B of Part 91.

FarewellFire 15th May 2017 15:17

I did my EASA PPL in San Diego and decided to do hour building in the same region since I was already pretty familiar with that environment. I looked around a lot before deciding and in the end decided to become a member with Plus One Flyers (http://www.plusoneflyers.org/), who run ops at four different fields in the San Diego area. They do not own their own aircraft, rather individuals rent their planes through them using their platform.

There are a ton of different planes. I choose a great, newly refurbished PA28 Archer (180hp) with a Garmin 430 stack, digital fuel monitoring, etc. The price was 115 USD (wet) per hour and I managed to squeeze that down by 10% agreeing to fly at least 50 hours in my month. In the end I logged close to 90 hours in that time, flying to some great locations (Las Vegas, Phoenix, San Francisco, Los Angeles...).

The One Plus organisation is very professional, they even have on-call instructors around the clock that you call if you have any questions regarding safety. You pay 30 USD a month for membership.

I had a EASA PPL and did some paperwork through the FAA website. I booked a meeting at the local FAA office and did a very brief interview with them, basically to check that my language skills was proper enough. I then got a 90-day paper slip (and my FAA card was sent to my adress in Sweden a few weeks later). This license is a piggyback-type, meaning that I have to have a valid EASA at all times to back it up.

I came back after a month, a much better pilot thanks to the challenging environment (Class B, a lot of traffic) and the amazing scenery.

Here's a video summing up that month of flying: https://youtu.be/nxDbVjl8q6A

r10bbr 15th May 2017 21:54

Hi Farewellfire what school did you go in san diego to do you easa ppl?

horus23 16th May 2017 18:34

Guys, I've searched a lot but couldn't find much about Hour building with Flying academy in USA.
Anyone who has done it recently could share some thoughts?

I'm thinking about to do it with Airplanes4rent, but Flying academy is an option. Apart most of the questions about them, one thing was different in their website. They say you need a FAA Medical class 2. In other websites and even here in the forum I learned that with a license like the one I hold, EASA UK CAA PPL, you could just convert license and medical, go to the FSDO when you get there and they would print the license. Or should I get an FAA medical anyway?

selfin 17th May 2017 00:47

Horus,

See 14 CFR 61.75(b)(4).

horus23 17th May 2017 04:42

Thanks selfin, so there's no need for a FAA medical if you hold one from the country which issued your license.

Another question just came up:
All the hours that you log in USA as PIC, not P1 and not dual for the biannual, will count 100% for EASA correct? Is there anything that is recommended to have in order not to have problems to prove the hours you've flown?
I read that it was just a signature of the renter and a stamp would be it. So having those can I have peace of mind when I go to start my IR and CPL back to Europe?

Cheers

selfin 17th May 2017 15:29

Horus,

Yes, however if your non-US medical certificate expires then you may obtain an FAA one.

Not all logged pilot-in-command time is deemed as such by EASA which only credits you for pilot-in-command time when you were the acting pilot-in-command. EASA treats training time received from an instructor as dual.

Any dual time received from a US-certificated flight instructor should be countersigned in your logbook. If you are not certain about the distinction between US and EU logging rules then forward a copy of the logbook to the prospective EASA training organisation for an assessment.

r10bbr 6th Jun 2017 18:00

what school did you do your easa ppl farewellfire?

THE FLYING MONKEY 10th Jun 2017 14:36

Flying in Arizona
 
Hi guys and girls,

Could anyone give me a bit of advice about the heat in Arizona in summer?
I've got some time off in July/Aug and really fancy going out to chandler air service to do some hour building. I haven't had a holiday in years, since I've been saving for my training and am really looking forward to flying out there, hopefully having a few free days to relax too. I could go to other places or stay in the uk, now its summer, or even wait until the end of the year to go to Phoenix but if possible I would prefer to go during those months.
I've spoken to the school about the performance of their aircraft; they have told me they will cover all that when I get there. They also told me that it is hot and that it's better to fly early in the morning and get back to the pool in the afternoon to relax and plan the next days flying.
I know that it probably depends on the type of person you are and how much you feel the heat. I'm quite skinny and always cold compared to my family and friends half the time! So I love a bit of heat but 44 degrees is a different story!
I really hoped someone could give me their opinion on whether it would be ok if I'm careful or whether I'm crazy and would be miserable for the whole 3 weeks. I'm concerned with safety most of all and whether my concentration would be affected if it is too hot?

Any comments would be appreciated, whether you have done some flying in Arizona or even visited there in the summer 😅

Thanks

dera 16th Jun 2017 03:34


Originally Posted by button push ignored (Post 9803384)

The trip started out of Knoxville Downtown Island Airport (DKX).

I met the local examiner Jerry Rasmussen a retired FBI agent, who can do all types of check rides.

Just got to give a shout out to Jerry - I did my IR and CPL with him - great guy!

Average__Pilot 18th Jun 2017 14:50

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rudestuff 23rd Jun 2017 06:50

^^^ just don't do that if you want an EASA licence, EASA will not recognise safety pilot hours as PIC.

selfin 23rd Jun 2017 09:07

rudestuff,

Do you care to back up that statement?

jamesgrainge 23rd Jun 2017 09:52


Originally Posted by selfin (Post 9810154)
rudestuff,

Do you care to back up that statement?

That is indeed correct. EASA does not recognise safety pilot as PIC

M-ONGO 23rd Jun 2017 10:41


^^^ just don't do that if you want an EASA licence, EASA will not recognise safety pilot hours as PIC.
Fact. Don't do it!

selfin 23rd Jun 2017 10:51

jamesgrainge,

Yet the decision is left to the national authorities which must disregard one or more Part-FCL rules to discredit pilot-in-command hours logged by a person acting as pilot-in-command. The discussion properly belongs in this other thread: http://www.pprune.org/professional-p...-faa-easa.html

Average__Pilot 23rd Jun 2017 11:43

Thanks to you and all other guys, who made the same statement.
 

Originally Posted by rudestuff (Post 9810045)
^^^ just don't do that if you want an EASA licence, EASA will not recognize safety pilot hours as PIC.


Thanks to you and all other guys, who made the same statement.

Still, as I do understand, Total Time is not counted as well in this case?

And most important, if I'll still do it, with intentions to go to Africa/ Asia to beat 500TT mark, it strictly depends on the particular country/ authorities, to recognize safety pilot time and include in total?
Anyone has info/ examples of particular state?

jamesgrainge 24th Jun 2017 09:28


Originally Posted by selfin (Post 9810254)
jamesgrainge,

Yet the decision is left to the national authorities which must disregard one or more Part-FCL rules to discredit pilot-in-command hours logged by a person acting as pilot-in-command. The discussion properly belongs in this other thread: http://www.pprune.org/professional-p...-faa-easa.html

The discussion is irrelevant though buddy.

Thems the EASA rules I'm afraid


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