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Mojave_90 29th Dec 2010 09:17

Aeros Gloucester
 
Hi guys

Do some of you have recent feedbacks concerning this school. (The latest ones I found on this forum are from 2006)

Thank you in advance

felixflyer 29th Dec 2010 10:40

I haven't been there but I am currently researching schools to do my ME/IR. I have only heard good things about Aeros.

I am very interested to hear what their prices will be once they receive their Technam twins. An IR in this is currently very cheap in Europe and I might even wait to see what they come up with.

AlphaMale 29th Dec 2010 17:28

I've not been to their base in Gloucester to train with them (only away landings).

However I do fly with them out of Cardiff, they have a good reputation and the aircraft are maintained to the highest standard (what you'd expect from an approved aircraft maintenance company).

I will be doing my IMC next month with them at Cardiff followed by my CPL/ME-IR with them next year at Gloucester :ok:

CY333 29th Dec 2010 17:47

The only personal experience I have with them , its for the RT test and I must say I was not impressed.
The examiner denied to give me a level 6, due to the fact that English is not my mother language.
I have studied at a UK university and I have IELTS and an English Nationality and he said he was very satisfied with my accent and my pronunciation but these are the rules he said.:sad:
I have looked to find this regulation but have not managed up to now.
Cannot comment on their flight training but this is what I experienced, instructors that are not up to date with regulations.

tom775257 29th Dec 2010 18:51

Hi CY333,

Out of interest who was the RT examiner? I used to work there and know most of the guys and will see what I can find out if I am friends with the chap/ chapess. Aeros used to use an external examiner (a certain sarcastic friend of mine) who now is ex EGBJ ex EGLL, I think now they have an internal one, not sure who though.

For what it is worth when I used to fly for a European airline with fluent English speakers, the pilots weren't given level 6 on the whole. They were all English speaking from birth. In the end so long as you have level 4 I think it makes cock all difference. A pass or a pass with a bollocking, it's all the same in the end.

Level 6: <<Pronunciation, stress, rhythm, and intonation, though possibly influenced by the first language or regional variation, almost never interfere with ease of understanding. Able to speak at length with a natural, effortless flow. Varies speech flow for stylistic effect, e.g. to emphasize a point. Uses appropriate discourse markers and
connectors spontaneously.>>

Cheers.

kwb911 29th Dec 2010 21:18

The school is very good. I fly quite a lot at Aeros (wellesbourne) and recently completed my CPL at Gloucester. The school has a very good reputation and i achieved a first time pass in minimum hours over 3 weeks full time (the weather pretty good and i managed to fly most days). As mentioned training was very good and I plan to go back for my IR next year.

stuclark 31st Dec 2010 22:56

This year I did my CPL, FI and have 10 hours of my MEIR left to do at Aeros Gloucester, good aircraft, good facillities, excellent instructors, their own maintainance over the taxiway is a BIG plus. I looked at at few schools, AEROS had the right 'feel' and are a very profesional school.

britannia66 1st Jan 2011 11:55

CY333.

A standard CAA RT Examiner cannot give you a Level 6 in English, if English is not your mother tongue. The examiner for this has to have a special language qualification. Nor can a FE upgrade you to Level 6 at renewals. The person who is not upto date is you!

CY333 1st Jan 2011 16:10

Can you explain then how do other Europeans, some of them friends of mine,
got their frozen ATPL in the UK and actually Oxford and got a level 6 and how can you say English is not my mother tongue when both parents English, born in the UK BUT went to a non non English speaking speaking school, that was the ground he used.
I will get Level 6 on my next check but thats not the point here is it?
Can you justify this?
Thats the experience I had with them.
If this guy is working or not for AEROS, thats not my concern, my experience with them was as I said.

Oh not to forget to say that the examiner that examined me on my CPL, found this to be quite stupid and the RT examiner not been familiar with current regulations.Thats a direct quote.

ladybird380 1st Jan 2011 22:41

I did my CPL with them back in 2008. Duncan was my instructor and he was a superb instructor and a very friendly person. Aeros was the friendliest FTO I had approached before I started my CPL. Staverton airport is arguably the best training airfield in the country with instrument approach procedures, 3 rwys and radar facilities, no unnecessary delays at holding points. All instructors were very experienced and dedicated and they had excellent ops staff. I highly recommend Aeros.:ok:

cambridge 2nd Jan 2011 21:11

CY333.

Which part of britannia 66s post do you not understand? A non native English speaker, to achieve Level 6 English, must take an English test with an Aviation English Language Examiner. It is unlikely that a FE or RT Examiner will hold this qualification ... I don't. I can upgrade a native English speaker to Level 6 (but only a native speaker). Reread the JAA/EASA rules. I presume you covered them for your ATPL exams. Unfortunately not all countries are keeping the rules!
My experience of Aeros is that they are excellent.

CY333 2nd Jan 2011 22:51

I am native English speaking or which part my posts you did not pick up.I was in a RAF base until I was 22.Just because my parents thought it would be good to learn another language and send me to the local school does not make a non English language native and please dont patronize me.I am not bothering with this again its pointless.Wish you a Happy New Year.

cambridge 4th Jan 2011 11:39

If English is your mother tongue, you can be upgraded to Level 6 English by any Flight Examiner at any future renewal, eg IR/Type Rating etc, by simply ticking a box. The question is .... Is English your mother tongue? That is how the rules are written.

Mojave_90 7th Jan 2011 16:46

Thank you very much for your replies. You all seem to have had a positive experience as regards flight training.
Kwb911 and Alphamale: Do you know which month you would return there ?

kwb911 7th Jan 2011 22:41

Mojave 90,

I will probably do the IR in June or July depending on work commitments. I noticed several people have mentioned Duncan was their instructor on their CPL course. I also had Duncan and would recommend him however all the CPL instructors are very good and I would not be worried about training with any of them.

AlphaMale 10th Jan 2011 21:09

I'll be there either next weekend or the next (providing we get flyable weather) and I'll be starting the IMC as soon as I can (probably start/mid February).

If I can be of any help ask away or PM me :ok:

Mojave_90 13th Jan 2011 15:38

Ok Thank you very much guys


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