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Groundloop 18th Feb 2009 07:44


One of the best aviation degrees (at least it was when I was there) and I think the first in the country, was that run by Leeds University,
A lot of Leeds publicity for this course has claimed they were the first to run a degree which included pilot training. They were not!!! City University and London Met were running courses well before Leeds started. This indicates that Leeds research was simply pathetic or they just lied!

Wee Weasley Welshman 18th Feb 2009 07:51

An aviation degree is the worst of all worlds.

Its no use if you lose your medical and can't be a pilot anymore so provides no safety net.

Its not going to impress any airline or get you a flying job.

Its useless and irrelevant to the day to day job.



Total waste of time.

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Genghis the Engineer 18th Feb 2009 08:20


Originally Posted by Wee Weasley Welshman (Post 4727698)
An aviation degree is the worst of all worlds.

Its no use if you lose your medical and can't be a pilot anymore so provides no safety net.

Its not going to impress any airline or get you a flying job.

Its useless and irrelevant to the day to day job.



Total waste of time.

WWW


A "general" aviation degree such as "aeronautical science" - I agree.

Something more specific - aerospace/aviation/aeronautical engineering, aviation management, physics "with": perhaps not.

G

Groundloop 18th Feb 2009 14:58


Its useless and irrelevant to the day to day job.
Depends what you want to do. I know of one City University graduate with Thomson who, during a stopover in the Maldives with the Chief Training Captain, got talking about his degree. Two weeks later he got a phone call from said Captain asking if he would like to help out setting up and running ad-hoc training courses when not flying.

Wee Weasley Welshman 18th Feb 2009 15:15

And did he want to?

Incredibly dull I would have thought - should have kept his mouth shut and concentrated on oogling. Silly boy.

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Kestral757 18th Feb 2009 21:12

Hi guys on the subject,im currently in my first year at london Met doing Aviation Management & Ops (Pilots Pathway) FDSC i think its a good degree and think its good to have even though you dont need it to be an airline pilot,you learn marketing,HR management,airport ops and PPL ground school etc, I know a FO working for Ryanair who done this course and he said you stand a better chance of getting hired if you were up against someobody without a degree whether it be aviation related or not. If for some reason i cant be a Pilot I can change onto the Management side and complete a 'top up year' to get the full BSC,theres also the option for work experience within the industry. This degree works for me either way, I love aviation,i would hate to have to do a degree in something that i didnt want to do,any degree shows employers that u have developed and obtained key personnal skills and commitment,its better than not having one at all.

Wee Weasley Welshman 18th Feb 2009 21:36

Spelling, grammar and structure reinforce the belief that modern degrees from modern institutions aren't worth the GCSE paper roll they're smeared upon.


Harsh I know but so is the real world.

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student88 18th Feb 2009 21:45

I managed to get my job as an Operations Officer for a large UK airline based at Luton with just my GCSEs. You don't need a degree, just the ability to work hard. Don't waste your money, get some experience working for an airline. Oh yeah, I was 19 when I started working for them.

preduk 18th Feb 2009 23:15

Kestrel,

I tell you right know HR wouldn't touch you if you tried to get a job with them so that aspect of your career is dead. These days you need a full BA(hons) plus a CIPD qualification which you aren't going to get from these courses because they aren't recognised.

Kestral757 22nd Feb 2009 20:30

Get a degree in what ever you want to do, if you are unsure speak to the University,they know best and can tell you where past students have gone onto.

Celtic Pilot 22nd Feb 2009 22:32

Best post so far Kestral 757...

I did a degree in mech engineering, wasnt to sure at the time (when things were ok economically) But now im really glad,,, degree's speak loads on CV's for any job... small or big...

Person with a Degree

person with a couple of A-levels

If you owned a company, I'll let you decide which one you would employ!!!!!!

preduk 23rd Feb 2009 02:01


if you are unsure speak to the University,they know best and can tell you where past students have gone onto
Yeh thats a good idea. Why not speak to the University so they can give you their marketing crap and bang you into a course thats low on students. :ugh:


Person with a Degree

person with a couple of A-levels

If you owned a company, I'll let you decide which one you would employ
I would rather employ the person I think is best suited to the job. I've met a number of graduates who couldn't even write a proper letter never mind do the job properly. I'm not saying a degree is bad, what I'm saying is that having a degree doesn't make you top dog.

Do a degree that you will enjoy and has real career prospects. You will enjoy the course and the job at the end of it, do your own research, look at the job market and see what the requirements are AND how many jobs there are. No point doing a degree you enjoy when there aren't any positions available year after year.

Groundloop 23rd Feb 2009 07:09


do your own research, look at the job market and see what the requirements are AND how many jobs there are. No point doing a degree you enjoy when there aren't any positions available year after year.
Bit like training to be a pilot at the moment!:ok:

Kestral757 26th Feb 2009 22:06

Preduk- You actually said something positive..is it just that you dont like the Aviation Industry..?, my lecturers at London Met told me fulwell that this is not the best time to be doing a degree in aviation and finding employment after will be tough but that wont last forever and as mentioned above,if you lose your medical you have something to fall back on and stand a better chance of getting a job than someobody else who is less qualified!. :p


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